Do you approve of Harper’s combat mission in Iraq?

Prime Minister Harper is leading Canada into another war.

Today in Parliament, Harper said he intends to send six CF-18 fighter-bombers and other military aircraft to bomb regions of Iraq as part of the U.S.-led fight against Islamic militants.

The government’s motion will be voted on by Parliamentarians on Monday to authorize the military combat mission for up to six months.

 

All Opposition MPs have said they will oppose this motion.

Do you support this motion?

Leave your comment below.

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631 Responses to “Do you approve of Harper’s combat mission in Iraq?”

  1. Brian VNovember 21, 2014 at 3:52 am #

    The War on Terror has shown to make matters worse. Going to just bomb the Middle East is not the answer. Killing innocent civilians has made terrorism and made terrorism worse.

  2. RamOctober 25, 2014 at 9:19 am #

    The WW I and the subsequent Versailles Treaty (which turned out to be a ‘revenge measure’ on Germany, seeping over to other European countries too) – devastated Germany, leading to WW II. The League of Nations after WW I died meanwhile. Then the WWII, the atom bombs – leading to Cold War, and the Korean War. Then the Vietnam War, Afganisthan problem accentuated by both Russia and the US (and their cronies), the Bosnia divisions, the Russian satellites countries and their minor wars, the start of the Iraq war preparations (c. 1990) and still continuing, potential war with Iran, the war on Libya …. nothing was resolved, and the WORLD is more unhappy and insecure and pessimistic than ever before. Even the young ones have a bitter feeling towards it all. Canada was – in all these – a trusted, peaceful country, trying to bring peace among all this muddle – until now. In the East Canadians are loved and trusted. Now, Mr. Harper is taking measures to destroy that possibility also – being a trusted friend that can possibly bring peace and happiness to the Western world….

    I am ABSOLUTELY AGAINST ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT OF CANADA IN THIS WAR.

  3. Grant PattingaleOctober 19, 2014 at 2:38 pm #

    It should have been a free vote in the House of Commons. Not a decision by Harper, rubber stamped by the Conservative majority in the House.

  4. Margaret MaierOctober 17, 2014 at 9:48 pm #

    Iraq is in worse shape than it has ever been in. How much worse do you think you can make it? When I think of how modern, intellectual, and how free citizens were compared to now, and what Canada has already done to destroy them, I want Canada to stay home, spend money on our poverty, our education, our youth, our elders, protecting the environment, and promoting renewable energy; and do away with war.

  5. Bonita PalmerOctober 17, 2014 at 12:48 pm #

    other than medical humanitarian aid I do not think we should be involved in this war.

  6. Raymond IveyOctober 15, 2014 at 3:45 pm #

    My hope was after the long and grueling Afghanistan mission; and the Libyan affair, that we as Canadians, had had enough of being involved in such conflicts. I feel for our military, often stretched and throw into conflicts that we as a nation, have no business being involved in. These conflicts do not solve anything. Iraq is in worse shape now than it has ever been. What do we stand to gain by going into this Middle Eastern theatre? I just see more animosity and increased anger towards the West.

    The more I read with regards to these increasing conflicts in Iraq and surrounding countries, leads me to believe that everything that has happened there is a result of invasions that served no long term relief or rebuilding. Just constant chaos, with more increased extremism. It is an endless circle and this will only further plunge the region into further tyranny.

    I do not know all the answers, of course not. But since 2003, I have not seen ANY benefits to the Iraqi people, and or surrounding countries.

    Why must we beat our plough shears into swords? Enough already!!

    The Iraqi people are so beaten down, and now once again, devoid of any Hope or end to conflict.

    I feel for the common citizen there trying to earn a living, wage and provide for their family.

    Sad, sad, and preventable.

    ENOUGH WAR!!!

  7. Elizabeth BlockOctober 11, 2014 at 3:27 pm #

    No, no, no. 9/11 was because of the interference (a polite Canadian way of saying it) by the US in the affairs of Muslim countries. Do we want IS to think, correctly, that we have it in for all Muslims?
    PS Check out http://www.thebeaverton.com.

  8. Judith weismanOctober 10, 2014 at 7:38 pm #

    Many years ago, during the U.S. assault against the Vietnamese people, my husband and I decided to leave the United States and live in Canada.. At that time I realized that the history of the United States was one of rape, plunder and murder first against the Aboriginal peoples of North America and increasingly against the Aboriginal peoples of the world. Neither my husband nor I wished to continue raising our sons there. While certainly the treatment of Aboriginal people here in Canada is not one to be proud of it does not match the murder and mayhem perpetrated by Western European whites in the U.S. However Harper is doing his damnedest to make up for that starting to send Canadian “hordes” (does it matter if they are troops or planes or drones, they all do the same – kill and maim) into Islamic countries., feeding the war economy of the U.S.

  9. Moira JubinvilleOctober 10, 2014 at 2:34 pm #

    I do not approve of most of the things that Harper and the conservatives (actually the Reform Party) – are doing to Canada’s people and lands. time for a change!!!

  10. Penny KollarOctober 10, 2014 at 11:45 am #

    Harper is truly the worst thing to ever happen to this country. The current government is illegal nothing they sign or agree to is there for legal. Perhaps this is how to avoid an election.

    • Marie ChidleyOctober 10, 2014 at 2:45 pm #

      I am pround to say that I was part of a large organizing committee back in 2002/2003 that brought thousands of people out to the streets opposing the US/Uk invasion of Iraq. This is the war that the Harper cons were prevented from undertaking back then. It was wrong then and it is certainly wrong now. Let there be peace and let it begin with each one of us and say”NO” to war and the merchants of war. I think Dylan called them the ‘masters of war”. Let this action be the death blow to this nightmare of a government.

  11. Mike WindrimOctober 10, 2014 at 10:08 am #

    Harper is in power illegally and as such his sending our soldiers into action is not acceptable.

  12. Malcolm LatwatOctober 9, 2014 at 6:34 pm #

    I am extremely opposed to Harper’s combat mission in Iraq. I feel if Harper wishes to send Canada into War in Iraq that we should hand Harper over to those he would have us attack to face justice at their hands. I would side with those Harper calls enemies and support them instead. Harpers actions are immoral and Treasonous to Canadian values. That he is planning to push for War motivates me to demand that he be charged with Treason and given the maximum sentence allowable by Canadian Law.

    • Karen PidcockOctober 10, 2014 at 1:35 am #

      I keep thinking while the violent actions continue…as the 60′s poster asked: “What if they gave a war, & nobody came?”

  13. Joe TannenbaumOctober 9, 2014 at 5:12 pm #

    Thank you for representing a voice for social justice and peace. Its a crucial reminder to thousands of Canadian supporters and allies that war is an outmoded form of conflict.

  14. MAHENDRAMAHADEVIOctober 9, 2014 at 3:28 pm #

    PLEASE, STOP ALL WARS ON OUR BEAUTIFULL PLANET, WAR ONLY BRINGS PAIN AND SUFFERINGS TO THE INNOCENT… IF THOSE WHO SUPPORT WAR WOULD GET TOGETHER IN A DESSERT AND SHOOT EACHOTHER, FINE… OH HUMAN, DO REMEMBER, THERE IS NO MOTHER ON EARTH THAT GAVE BIRTH TO HER CHILD TO GET KILLED IN A WAR, NOR THAT HER CHILD WOULD HAVE TO KILL IN A WAR,,,, PLEASE SAY NO TO WAR… THE MONEY SPEND ON THE INSTRUMENTS FOR WARFARE COULD BE USED TO BETTER THE WORLD AND THE HUMAN IN POVERTY !!!!

  15. Manfred GerschackOctober 9, 2014 at 3:22 pm #

    I am completely against Canada’s military involvement in the Middle East. It was the USA war against Iraq, based on lies and deception, that created the breeding ground for extremists. Now, that the gene is out of the bottle, the USA is again compiling a “Coalition of the Willing” among them Saudi Arabia and other Persian Gulf states, that actively support the extremists in Iraq and Syria to combat their creation. More bombs will cause more harm to the civilian population and will foster more and new extremism, a formula for perpetual war. Canada should not be part of it, it is a US created problem it should be solved by the US and if in the great wisdom of the leaders of the only “superpower” bombing is the only solution than we should not be part of it.

  16. Corey BoutinOctober 9, 2014 at 2:52 pm #

    I do not approve of Prime Minister Harper using a majority government to lead Canada into War.

  17. Martin BaronOctober 9, 2014 at 2:31 pm #

    Harper needs to be impeached as soon as possible. He is selling off Canada, destroying our natural resources and he has absolutely no vision. He is an embarrassment to Canadians.

  18. Vanessa ComptonOctober 9, 2014 at 12:41 pm #

    I am totally against Canada’s participation in this action. No strategy, no options, no exit plan. Horrible impact on the environment, civil population, and infrastructure. NO real debate in parliament and no consensus at all.

    Looks like a a way to make Canadian arms merchants rich, though. Plus, Dear Leader has been jonesing to go to war since 2003:
    http://www.thestar.com/opinion/commentary/2014/10/04/stephen_harper_is_always_gungho_about_war_siddiqui.html

  19. MOctober 9, 2014 at 12:25 pm #

    No, it is NOT our business

  20. Bonnie JacksonOctober 9, 2014 at 12:11 pm #

    I support the motion to oppose the war…Very confusing wording…Do you support Harper’s combat mission in Iraq ? with Do you support the motion to oppose? I just said no, when I meant I OPPOSE HARPER’S COMBAT MISSION IN IRAQ AND I SUPPORT THE OPPOSITION TO IT.

  21. Bonnie JacksonOctober 9, 2014 at 12:09 pm #

    no

  22. Noella LangOctober 9, 2014 at 11:49 am #

    Absolutely not. Bombing campaigns create angry victims and invite retaliation.

  23. Diana van EykOctober 9, 2014 at 11:16 am #

    no, I don’t. Military action doesn’t create peace. Diplomacy does.

  24. Brent ThibaultOctober 9, 2014 at 6:03 am #

    Vote him OUT Vote him OUT Vote him OUT or else we have nobody to blame but ourselves.

  25. Kevin McGinnOctober 8, 2014 at 10:02 pm #

    I absolutely do not approve of Mr Harper involving Canadians in any kind of war. Canadians are for peaceful means. Peace is the cessation of againstness. (I know it may not be a word as such, but you get the meaning.) Fighting terror with terror does not work. I believe that has been proven over and over in the history of mankind. An eye for an eye, as Gandhi has so clearly stated, will eventually make the whole world blind.
    Let’s make love – not war Love will conquer all.

    Love and Light
    Kevin McGinn

    • Brent ThibaultOctober 9, 2014 at 5:51 am #

      NO NO NO War doesn’t solve anything. Just makes us Canadians look like assholes.

  26. John AshbeeOctober 8, 2014 at 9:27 pm #

    I’ve always been of the opinion we were a blue hat kind of people and I’d certainly like to see us return to that role. Diplomacy and peace keeping and through the United Nations is the only way. Drones, bombing and shooting has never and will never resolve grievances. The UN may not be perfect but its the best vehicle we have at the moment.

  27. Catherine GeorgeOctober 8, 2014 at 6:47 pm #

    I do not approve of our Prime Minister and the Conservative majority putting Canadians at risk by entering a war. This makes Canadians much more vulnerable to attacks by terrorists and how does Mr. Harper plan to defend us? We will cease to be known as a peacekeeping nation. Once involved in war, it’s not easy to get out.

  28. Katharine FletcherOctober 8, 2014 at 4:17 pm #

    I do not approve of Prime Minister Harper using a majority government to lead Canada into War.

    I want Canada to resume its status as a respected leader in international peacekeeping. I believe we have strong, if not renowned skills in infrastructure-support, training of in-country personnel (such as police, emergency first-responders etc) and in building potable fresh water initiatives, securing/protecting refugees.

    In short, I do NOT approve of Harper’s combat mission in Iraq which means Canada and Canadians are at war. Harper’s decision is a shameful abuse of a “majority” in the House of Commons.

  29. retepOctober 8, 2014 at 2:41 pm #

    Harper listens only to himself. Unfortunately we have to continue to put up with all of his nonsense…….until next elections. Let us ensure he does not return to parliament, not even as janitor!

  30. Roger RichardsonOctober 8, 2014 at 12:20 pm #

    These endless US wars accomplish nothing but profit for the arms dealers.

  31. Ruth Bradley-St-CyrOctober 8, 2014 at 7:49 am #

    Canada must reclaim our position as peacekeepers in the world.

    • Larry NormanOctober 8, 2014 at 8:30 am #

      Im with Ruth on this one. Restore our World known International Reputation as Peacekeepers and for god sakes support it ! PMSH has dismantled Pearson Centre because he was a Liberal & Nobel Peace Prize Winner & glorifying historic moments in Canadian pre- history that have no significant value for us today nor can it justify the millions could have been spent elsewhere s. Indeed this is HarpersWar make no mistake about it.

  32. Chris BenoitOctober 7, 2014 at 9:59 pm #

    NO I DO NOT support this action. I’m fed up with the politicians that send Canadian men and women, who have pledged their service to protecting Canada, over to fight [their] wars over oil and money that we citizens don’t see or benefit from!

    We the citizens of Canada actually lose money funding these wars; also ultimately we lose our sons/daughters/husbands/wives/fathers and mothers…

    Harper and ‘buddies’,
    Why don’t you suit up and go fight? We’ll have your back when you get back, if…
    Regards,

    Tired of Fighting Your Bullsh*t Battles

  33. Louis NataleOctober 7, 2014 at 9:19 pm #

    NO.

  34. MikeOctober 7, 2014 at 5:01 pm #

    First was the Gulf war then Iraq then Afghanistan then Libya then Syria and now another pretext for war. When will people wake up and realize that human beings are killed by the hundreds of thousands and disposed by the millions and it is a crime. I want no part of it. Give peace a chance.

  35. Claire ScottOctober 7, 2014 at 2:26 pm #

    One day, this government will look back and ask, “What were we thinking?” Too late. We are in for the long haul. Why does “heavy lifting” always mean combat? When there is an upcoming election and you need a dramatic distraction from scandals and mismanagement. When the hawks see military intervention as the first line. When you need your atta-boys from our neighbors to the south. Funny, I find it far from reassuring when Hilary Clinton declares our help to be “indispensable”. Her decision to invade Iraq 10+years ago stands as matter of record.

    Be assured that dropping bombs in Iraq is only a start. If you liked Afghanistan, you’re gonna LOVE Iraq.

  36. Paul BrowningOctober 7, 2014 at 1:47 pm #

    I do not support the motion. War is not the solution.

  37. John BogieOctober 7, 2014 at 1:46 pm #

    No, waist of money, there are over 10 countries in the Coalition with fighter bombers maybe more including Iran for a total of at least 150 fighter bombers. What can 6 CF-18′s do but just waist the Tax Payers money, If they can go to Iraq where were they in Afghan when our ground troops needed help in their fire fights. Help the poor civilians fleeing from the fighting winter is coming. WW II Vet

  38. Lorna VulliamyOctober 7, 2014 at 1:30 pm #

    Listen to Tom Mulcair and the New Democratic Party. They have expressed opposition very clearly … NO TO BOMBING ! !! Send humanitarian aid instead! Thank you folks for your insightful comments ( above…) When will Harper listen to the citizens ( in our so-called democracy) who are paying the bills?

  39. Ildi VargaOctober 7, 2014 at 12:32 pm #

    I do NOT support a war against ISIL. First, the west created the setting for such a movement to grow. Second, it only proves to people in Syria etc that the west is out to destroy the Muslim world. And civilians will suffer horribly during a war that will probably go on endlessly without results other than destruction.

  40. kathy stirratOctober 7, 2014 at 9:00 am #

    I don’t support this in any way. As far as I’m concerned the US & Britain destabilized the region when they first started meddling in Iraq & Afganistan. Let them clean up the mess & Canada stay out of it. I don’t want to see anymore Canadians die or anyone else for that matter. The sudden emergence of ISIS seems very convenient as an excuse to invade Syria next.

  41. PJOctober 6, 2014 at 8:41 pm #

    When will the West ever learn to stop meddling in the Middle East, a region that has been tribal and at war since beginning of time? If ISIL, as we understand, is a monstrous perversion of Islam, let the true believers of Islam in the Middle East rally together to confront and defeat its followers, precisely as the Christian West rallied to confront and defeat Nazism. The same goes for the many different perversions of Islam in the sub-Sahara, Somalia, Afghanistan, Pakistan. and anywhere in the Islamic world: let them be confronted and defeated by their own.

    Canada’s piffling contribution of 6 CF-18s with bombs and support personnel serves only to put Canada on ISIL’s radar. But what can we expect of a government and a leader totally lacking in imagination and in need of a war to distract from its failures at home and overseas?

  42. Elizabeth MallettOctober 6, 2014 at 8:33 pm #

    “All war is a symptom of man’s failure as a thinking animal.” John Steinbeck
    Let us please think…………….

  43. Joe LanteigneOctober 6, 2014 at 7:51 pm #

    War is a last resort ,not a first resort. There has been no diplomatic efforts towards settling this affair. This is not a United Nations sanctioned action. I remember when Canada was a peaceful and peace keeping country. Now our government strives to sell arms and follow the warlike behaviour of the United States and other colonialist countries.

  44. Malcolm GriffinOctober 6, 2014 at 7:44 pm #

    We of the West have consistently taken the bait and got involved in the Middle East (first that offered by Osama and later that offered by IS) each time at great cost to the local population and in all cases strengthening the hands of the terrorists we were supposed to be removing. IS has been created by the local powers (Arab Syrian and Turk) we should encourage them to deal with it. If the US and UK feel some responsibility for the part they have played in creating IS let them worry about it.

  45. Mike BothmaOctober 6, 2014 at 7:42 pm #

    ISIS and the like are the result of this type of action 15 or so years ago. Let’s learn and stop destroying people

  46. Robert FreemanOctober 6, 2014 at 7:32 pm #

    It is the beginning of the end.

  47. Helen RiordonOctober 6, 2014 at 7:10 pm #

    Stop this madness

  48. AugustOctober 6, 2014 at 3:26 pm #

    Yes, I strongly oppose Harper’s and anybody else combat mission anywhere in the world, because fighting is counter productive to building and honest work and only feeds the animal still with us and in us, and individualism, which we made to our religion feeds that animal and will eventually destroy us and the natural world we neglected.
    A.J.Ummenhofer/Canada

  49. Dr. David D. MarkwardtOctober 6, 2014 at 2:14 pm #

    Don’t go down the road of the American government by creating enemies all over the planet. If you do, you’ll find out that it will eventually bankrupt your country like it has the U.S.A.

  50. DavidOctober 6, 2014 at 2:09 pm #

    Cavalier militarism by the Americans is exactly what charred Iraq into the ashes from which ISIL was born in the first place; and now Harper’s big idea is to send more bombs?! Are you freaking kidding me?!

    You know what we should send instead of bombs? – Send food, send medical supplies, send doctors, send sanitation engineers, and most importantly send our apologies for aligning ourselves with the US while they completely destroyed Iraq, a country of 26 million people, based on lies and deception. Why is our Parliament not talking about how this all started??

  51. Colin MilesOctober 6, 2014 at 1:54 pm #

    How quickly the death instinct can mould public opinion. Apparently, polls suggest the majority of Canadians support the Harperite war strategy.
    it is wrong-headed, cynical, knee-jerk bellisocosity combined with the greed of arms manufactures and the supposed glamour of a “soldier-PM”.
    This is a very complex situation with at least 8 proxy wars as this article describes.
    http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/syrian-wars-proxy
    Of course ISIS is awful, but 3,000 civilian deaths from US drones is awful. How can more bombs solve anything?

    The military-industrial complex and its lackeys wants eternal war and it does not matter who the enemies or the allies are. Switch and keep fighting.
    Of course there are fanatics in different religions and secular religions but the use of anti-muslim propaganda evokes memories of the Nazi’s anti-semitic propaganda as a pretext for murder and war.
    Why is that Canada can get soldiers to the mideast so quickly but cannot get medicine to Africa and moves at a glacial space in bringing refugees from these war-torn countries to Canada?
    How quickly our fine nation has been turned into an old-fashioned warmonger.
    Shame

    • Donna MOctober 9, 2014 at 10:18 am #

      This war harper is taking us into is a huge mistake. I am totally opposed to military action in the middle east..or anywhere else. This is not the Canadian way.

  52. Brian RichardsOctober 6, 2014 at 1:21 pm #

    I certainly don’t agree with killing more innocent people. That has been the operative method of the USA in many conflicts throughout the world. Just think of all the killing perpetrated by the Bush presidencies. All of this has made those arms manufacturers very rich indeed. Why not seek out who is supplying arms to the militants and place sanctions and embargos against them. In other words cut of the money and arms. We would likely be surprised that those supplying arms and money are closer than we think.

  53. Michael McIsaacOctober 6, 2014 at 12:41 pm #

    The entire region has been deliberately destabilized by just such efforts.
    Any perceived good this can do is a complete fantasy.

    • Terri BettsOctober 6, 2014 at 12:52 pm #

      There are much more effective ways to deal with this situation than dropping more bombs.
      Just the sort of knee-jerk, primitive response we have come to expect from the Harper regime.

    • Eileen MackenzieOctober 6, 2014 at 1:04 pm #

      Unfortunately many hundreds if not thousands of people will die as a result of Stephen Harper’s actions. Of course we deplore the actions of ISIS but bombing is more likely to inflame rather than deter them

  54. Susan McInnesOctober 6, 2014 at 12:00 pm #

    Hateful Little Man with a hateful agenda.

  55. gittaOctober 6, 2014 at 11:27 am #

    No War, no bombing foreign countries.

  56. Jack MersereauOctober 6, 2014 at 11:06 am #

    I wonder who’s interest Harper is serving? He’s not acting with the permission of the United Nations and more alarming, not the sovereign nation he’s bombing. Having no backbone, Harper reflexively goes along with the White House. He puts Canadians at risk through his thoughtless, unauthorized actions. He does not represent me, nor I would hope, most Canadians.

  57. Elaine BurrowsOctober 6, 2014 at 11:04 am #

    October 6th/2014

    No, it is a bad reaction, “We are suppose to be” Canada the Peace Keeping Country.
    Canada has always set an example, this adds fuel to the fire, send Obama & Harper over to solve this mess.

  58. Karen NystromOctober 6, 2014 at 10:25 am #

    The real terrorists are in the Congo – far worse atrocities occur there and pose a more serious threat to the world than ISIS. This whole issue provides huge profits for Canadian (and U.S.) arms producers. and Harperites love profit margins. Canada should participate in peacekeeping and on the ground diplomatic activities.

  59. Mary GrohOctober 6, 2014 at 9:52 am #

    Please use our tax money and our human resources for positive, peace-filled efforts, and then watch for ISIS to start dying for want of oxygen.
    Even the war-machine-making corporations could start gasping for air.

  60. LawrenceOctober 6, 2014 at 9:47 am #

    Bombing these fanatics will only spread the fire of jihad. By choosing to bomb ISIL forces Harper is making every Canadian a target and we know Canadian lost boys have travelled to join in the insanity so what’s to say they don’t set up a cell here?
    I have to say I hear reason in Chelsea Mannings call to give them a limited piece of land they can call a Caliphate, thereby allowing containment and the opportunity for them to implode through their own hate and malice.

  61. Raymonde MaisonneuveOctober 6, 2014 at 9:16 am #

    We need to rediscover the peace-keeping role we once had and for which Canada was greatly respected. Humanitarian endeavors continue to be a long-lasting solution.

  62. Patrick MaloneyOctober 6, 2014 at 9:12 am #

    Lots of worthy comments here about Harper’s motivations etc but we have skin in this game because of our Afghanistan mis-adventure. We have contributed militarily to the problem.

    Would someone like to tell me how one ‘negotiates’ with people who routinely decapitate innocent hostages?

    ISIL are wacko’s. They are killing anyone who isn’t Wahhabi Sunni.

    Are we to turn our backs on this carnage and comfort ourselves with
    ‘aiding’ what victims manage to escape? Draw some arbitrary line in the sand and let them have Iraq & Syria and whatever the Levant is? Lie to ourselves that they will be happy to stop there? They are filthy rich thanks to loot and robbery. They will export their crazy shit to Africa and Pakistan and elsewhere

    This military intervention should probably be compared more with WW11 against Hitler than to Viet Nam as has been suggested .

  63. Christina MillsOctober 6, 2014 at 8:35 am #

    Absolutely not. Have you learned nothing from history?

  64. Robert WillsOctober 6, 2014 at 8:23 am #

    Bomb the Tar Sands first. Let Steve trade places with a kidnapped aid worker. Use the jet planes to drop money all over the middle east – it’s cheaper that way. No more majority governments, elected by a minority – it makes them go crazy with imagined powers.

  65. Joanne BanksOctober 6, 2014 at 12:58 am #

    I do not support Harper’s war mongering. War is not a solution and never has been.
    we must take care of children… not bomb them.. Shame on you Harper!

    • Jon JonesOctober 6, 2014 at 7:25 am #

      I do NOT support bombing anyone. How come when someone else bombs something, they are a terrorist. Does that not make us terrorists for bombing others? This does not work, it only makes a few people very wealthy and kills more innocents than anyone else.

  66. eleneOctober 6, 2014 at 12:51 am #

    I do NOT support this decision AT ALL!
    Stop trying to get into the war business, it makes Canada look so aggressive.
    Canada used to be a peaceful country… well, not anymore.

  67. Elaine SchellOctober 6, 2014 at 12:35 am #

    I do not support this action being taken at all. This will only bring about more conflict. Whatever happened to Canada being the Peacekeeper in all of this? Is only further proof that the Prime Minister is Not interested in what we the people of Canada need, which is Peace. War is never the answer.

  68. Jack ThornburghOctober 6, 2014 at 12:16 am #

    Harper is all “rah, rah” for war, as he’s a very small man and his military bravado pumps him up and makes him look to be a strong, decisive leader. Military or air strikes from states outside the region simply bring more recruits into the fold of the small minority of religious extremists.

  69. Mark KratynskiOctober 5, 2014 at 11:54 pm #

    Innocent people will probably die as well as ISIL. Terror from the skies will create more terrorists.

  70. Mary Lou Jorgensen-BacherOctober 5, 2014 at 11:45 pm #

    NO, I do not.

  71. Claudia HeinrichOctober 5, 2014 at 11:37 pm #

    Civilian casualties topped 100 000 in Iraq after the last war and I am failing to see how more dead bodies is going to fix this atrocious warmongering. I sincerely hope Stephen Harper loses the next election over this, as if racism, porkbarrelling and the secret trade deal with China weren’t enough to guarantee that already.

  72. David BouvierOctober 5, 2014 at 9:50 pm #

    Opposition suggestions to help civilians fleeing the conflict make much more sense than the Harperium’s sabre rattling. The rabid neo-cons are about to jump in with both feet into a situation for which there is no evident long term planning, no clearly defined war aim and no clear exit strategy: as history has shown time and time again, Vietnam being the paradigm case, a recipe for disaster. Boots on the ground should be from Muslim nation regional forces only. Otherwise, it’s yet another “crusade”. None of them ended well.

  73. Siddiq BurneyOctober 5, 2014 at 9:20 pm #

    Here we go again. Former Prime Minister Chretien was wise to recognize that it was the wrong thing do join President Bush in the Iraq invasion. Since the Conservatives have formed the government, Canada has lost the reputation of being an honest and fair mediator. Prime Minister Harper is determined to play second fiddle to US and Israel. Unfortunately it is the Canadian public that will pay for this disaster in the long run.

  74. susan langOctober 5, 2014 at 9:01 pm #

    Reading your comments greatly heartens me. Thank you.
    This is why we need more grown ups on capital hill.
    HARPER…..no civilian casualties…….only 6 months……..anyone opposing this must be un-canadian……we really TRIED peaceful means!
    I said to my dad recently, I’m 53 and the older I get, the more I understand how hard it is to ‘sell or propose’ peace work to the public. It’s not sexy, glamorous, thrilling or adventurous. It takes a GREAT DEAL of quiet intelligent reflection and debate with HUMBLE COMPROMISE while constantly trying to understand a frightening hostile unknown ‘enemy’.
    Close friends of ours put on a play here in Toronto called DINNER WITH GOEBBELS.
    insert= “A highly charged political satire, Dinner With Goebbels, is about an imagined dinner among three historical figures; Edward Bernays, the American nephew of Dr. Sigmund Freud, who created the field of public relations; and his two disciples, Dr. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi Minister of Propaganda and Karl Rove, the PR mastermind for the Bush administration. The play raises a number of disturbing questions concerning the human mythology of evil, the modern marketing of warfare and the implications of these questions for us all.” = insert finished.
    I put my earlier word ‘enemy’ in italics because those who NEED to market the war MUST CREATE AN ENEMY FOR US to fear. The actor playing Edward Bernays constantly repeats while smiling IT’S SO EASY TO CREATE AN ENEMY.
    Harper needs this war to set-up a false issue for the 2015 election. We sure wouldn’t want to discuss Climate Change would we? From Homer Simpson to Lisa Simpson “honey, that’s WHY we have politicians…..so we DON’T HAVE to think!”
    Yup this peace work is looking like a harder sell more and more. Easier to just go to war.

  75. michaelOctober 5, 2014 at 8:42 pm #

    if you go after them “which you already have) we will come for you…..

  76. dimitriOctober 5, 2014 at 8:41 pm #

    Harper wants to use up the old war machines (CF-18′s) so that he will have an argument to purchase the new ones (F-35′s). What a sneaky servant for the USA that we have in Ottawa. We’ve had enough of his “I know what’s good for us” attitude.

    Next year at the elections let’s get rid of the Harper Conservatives for good. No Pierre Poutine is gonna save his butt either !!!

  77. Jon LittleOctober 5, 2014 at 8:22 pm #

    The question is….How much longer will this body elect continue to make decisions in my name that do not in any way represent me! It is only an infinitely small comfort to say that I didn’t vote for him…but that still don’t stop him. WHEN will we have opposition we can vote for!!!!

  78. Raymond E. PhillipsOctober 5, 2014 at 8:08 pm #

    Stop being a puppet-the yes man for US major corporations and the administration.

    THINK FOR A CHANGE!

  79. carol scottOctober 5, 2014 at 7:46 pm #

    If Harper and the Conservatives are trying to fan the flames of hatred, they will be succeeding. It will take a strong opposition to this government’s war-mongering stance to turn the tide to returning to the peaceful humanitarian aid for which Canada used to be well recognized for. Collateral casualties are not what my global citizenry accepts.
    NO to the Harper agenda!!

  80. Ursula O UlrichOctober 5, 2014 at 7:46 pm #

    NO,
    the 2014 crusade with the latest in US and allies’
    as well as non-allies’ war machines
    and that’s to bring about a kinder, gentler, peaceful world?

    I for one do not need to witness another miracle rising from the ashes of this barbaric devastation!

  81. MajeskiOctober 5, 2014 at 7:44 pm #

    I am appalled at the idea of the Canadian government sending our military into Iraq. We already know what the tragic outcome will be. – See more at: http://www.ceasefire.ca/?p=19866#comments

  82. Irene WintersingerOctober 5, 2014 at 7:40 pm #

    It is high time that parliamentarians are allowed a proper and thorough debate before such important decisions as going to war are made. Carefully considering Elizabeth May’s speech would be a terrific start. Will we ever get back to something that looks like democracy?

  83. T.CarrollOctober 5, 2014 at 7:07 pm #

    NO! NO! NO!

    • Mary Cowper-SmithOctober 5, 2014 at 7:33 pm #

      I am appalled at the idea of the Canadian government sending our military into Iraq. We already know what the tragic outcome will be. When will we learn?

  84. Christine BennettOctober 5, 2014 at 6:58 pm #

    The media and the government isn’t mentioning much about civilian casualties. The technology must be very precise. This will just fan the flames of hatred.

  85. Moira JubinvilleOctober 5, 2014 at 6:11 pm #

    Harper’s war mongering is not only unCanadian, it is indecent – this from a man who considers himself to be a Christian. Jesus must be crying

  86. Alex McEachernOctober 5, 2014 at 6:10 pm #

    We should not be riding shotgun for the adventures of the American Military/business complex adventures in the Middle East (or anywhere else). American citizens reap what the military sows. The tax-payers pay for the destruction caused by wars then pay Haliburton and their like to rebuild what they destroyed.

    We should only work for peace through the United Nations not legitimize American imperialism.

  87. R.October 5, 2014 at 5:50 pm #

    Sure, let’s try to become as hated as Americans. With Harper at the helm, this mission will surely be accomplished! Stay out of that mess – a no-win.

  88. samantha rafteryOctober 5, 2014 at 5:32 pm #

    not only does this arrogant, ignorant harper sell out resources to a communist country for 31 years (fipa) without debate in parliament, gut our environmental policies, refuse to have an inquiry into First Nations’ women going missing, sell our veterans short when they return damaged, (the list is long!) but now decides he wants to send troops into Iraq with antiquated war machines! this person with the permanent smirk on his face is an embarrassment every time he opens his mouth to speak. what a buffoon. wonder what other leaders think about him? please make him go away.

  89. Sandra StreifelOctober 5, 2014 at 3:29 pm #

    I am a Canadian Christian–we are not all all Evangelical, Zionist, post-dispensational milleniallists. There are very many of us who believe, with the opposition in Parliament, that Canada has lost her mission in the world as a peacemaker and a peacekeeper. It was the aggressive war and bombing in Iraq which made it possible for ISIS/ISIL/IS to exist. Sending Canadian personnel and planes is not a significant addition to the strength of the American military presence available to put to use against the enemy–it is a diplomatic move, using Canadian lives and money which your Party has seen fit to cut from the budget.

    • Raymond ComeauOctober 5, 2014 at 4:54 pm #

      Sandra , I believe you win the prize for calling it exactly the way it is. Kudos to you
      Ray

  90. gail whitterOctober 5, 2014 at 3:01 pm #

    in a word: NO.

  91. Michael DworkindOctober 5, 2014 at 1:59 pm #

    Harper is blindly leading us into a war as allies of US. aggression against the muslim

    world …an impossible task.

    Canada as a peacekeeper not war fighter.

    Let the people speak out as they did when we refused to invade Iraq.

  92. David RennieOctober 5, 2014 at 1:28 pm #

    No way, bring the troops home now. Stay out of it. It is really designed to overthrow Assad.

  93. Jim WhitworthOctober 5, 2014 at 1:16 pm #

    No! It is absolutely disgusting that Harper has committed our country to water boy duty for the USA in their battles with the boogie man of the month in the middle east. The situation they put themselves in over there is one of their own making with their murderous activities in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq,etc, etc,. \
    Of course, there are going to be consequences when countries are destroyed and hundreds of thousands deaths recorded and it would be remarkable it there weren’t any. There are many other countries that have been foolishly coerced into to supporting US policies and actions in the middle east and Harper just couldn’t wait to make the same foolish move.

    Who knows maybe Canada and Canadians can be hated just as much as the Americans are in the middle east; I wonder what the gains will be and what consequences will follow as the result of our servility to the US policy.

  94. Onni MilneOctober 5, 2014 at 1:06 pm #

    I feel sad and angry that we are continuing Crusades 2014, thanks to Harper’s actions. I know how I would feel if my country was invaded by knights in the Middle Ages and the West in the Gulf War in 2003. I know how I would feel if Britain and France made a deal to carve up Arabia at the end of WW I after promising Faisal that Arabs would have independence if they supported us. I know how I would feel if the CIA staged a coup in Iran to depose a democratically elected leader to replace him with a dictator called the Shah. I know how I would feel if the West became alarmed about ‘terrorism’ only after one of their own was killed while Muslims were slaughtered with little acknowledgement of the carnage. I know how I would feel if there were drones flying above me at all times, never sure if I would be next while I see my friends and neighbours explode all around me. I know why there is hate and anger in Muslim communities. I see that Harper’s actions don’t solve the issue, they only compound it.

  95. Peter FeldmanOctober 5, 2014 at 1:02 pm #

    As cynical as I am about politicians in general, I support Mr. Trudeau’s comments on The Prime Minister’s war plans. He is specific about actions Canada could take other than combat. He is accurate in saying that The Prime Minister’s war plans could too easily expand into even more active combat.

  96. Julie HunterOctober 5, 2014 at 1:00 pm #

    god nO. Harper’s pathological self-agrandizement needs to be recognized as such. He Must be removed from office before he finishes taking Canada down. May will be too late :(

    • Raymond ComeauOctober 5, 2014 at 4:57 pm #

      Exactly

  97. Paul McArthurOctober 5, 2014 at 12:57 pm #

    One more year of Harper – we hope, please support this important documentary that confronts the challenges of ensuring every vote counts and complicated efforts to prevent this in the 2011 election https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/electoral-fraud-serious-funding-for-serious-doc

  98. mikael LarsonOctober 5, 2014 at 12:34 pm #

    All we need to do to know how we truly feel about this subject is to ask ourselves if we think being bombed ourselves would be the best resolution to a similar problem should it exist here. I think not. I think we all would prefer tactical methods to deal with problems that didn’t include bombs raining down over our heads.

  99. Flora Di CuntoOctober 5, 2014 at 12:34 pm #

    We humans are extremely adept at finding solutions. All we have to do is shift our perspective, to exclude the possibility of aggression as an acceptable solution when attempting to resolve complex conflicts of interest. History shows that this method never completely resolved anything.

  100. D.Barry FlemingOctober 5, 2014 at 12:29 pm #

    One more year of Harper.Can we endure till then?

  101. Michael WebbOctober 5, 2014 at 12:22 pm #

    I’m sure a few months of intense, “pin-point” bombing (surely there will be no innocents caught in this) will make the religious zealots change their mind about establishing a caliphate.

    Generally this approach works against hardcore religious fundamentalists as we’ve seen throughout history, right?

    It’s a sure thing, right?

  102. Michael WebbOctober 5, 2014 at 12:20 pm #

    We (the West) seem incapable of learning from our mistakes.

    If we helped create the conditions for terrorists like ISIS to thrive as we did in trashing Iraq I can only wonder what new disaster will come of this new “adventure” we’re embarking on.

    Bad idea. Don’t go there.

  103. C. MillerOctober 5, 2014 at 12:05 pm #

    I am totally against Harper’s approach. The countries going into the war against ISIS seem to be doing so because of the beheadings. I agree that beheading is intolerable but we must put all the evil into perspective. Look at the capital punishment in the U.S. which includes many of the wrongfully convicted. Saudi Arabia routinely beheads drug smugglers and “sorcerers” which amounted to a total of at least 41 beheadings last year. The Saudi’s have also been purchasing weapons under Harper’s program to replace manufacturing jobs with international arms trades and Canadian production of weapons. There are some good reasons why the people of Iraq do not trust the U.S. after the war there. The strategies of bombing oil refineries, grain elevators and other resources controlled by ISIS are only confirming the enemy status of the U.S. and its allies and increasing support for ISIS for providing food and energy needs for the people. The motives and alliances are so complicated that a war like this won’t end quickly if at all, and seriously risks being declared illegal for its crimes against humanity. There are other approaches that can negotiate much better outcomes. The Harper government is not a showpiece of democracy and human rights. Maybe he should try some improvements right here in Canada and set a good example and let wiser negotiators try to solve the problems of the Middle East in peaceful and constructive ways. As an aside, military activities do tremendous damage to negate any progress made to alleviate climate change.

  104. Carol OddyOctober 5, 2014 at 12:04 pm #

    I do not think Canada should go to war, we are a peaceful country!! Canada should be helping out on the ground, lot’s of people need help because of this war, innocent children, elderly, handicapped , babies and women. Food , medical supplies and other supplies are needed for these people. Canada needs to help the displaced people of the war not fight in it!!

  105. Cady WilliamsOctober 5, 2014 at 11:59 am #

    Inhumane and unconscionable! The West’s way to divert attention and avoid taking on Israel for its slaughter in Gaza

  106. Jim cowanOctober 5, 2014 at 11:50 am #

    Dangerous and naive is how I’ d describe Harper. And that’s on a good day.
    He forever panders to his base and to personal whim. He cares not a whit about what others think and have to offer.
    Bombing ISIS appeals to frustration but not to thought as well he knows.

  107. Judy CrossOctober 5, 2014 at 11:36 am #

    ISIS is a Western funded False Flag mercenary operation. No Canadian should be involved in this deadly scam. ISIS is funded by the Saudis and Qataris. It is totally phony.

  108. CarlotaOctober 5, 2014 at 11:21 am #

    I most definitely do not approve of any active military engagement. If we are to be involved at all, I believe we should be focusing on humanitarian efforts, assisting refugees with immediate and accessible aid, and possibly easing immigration restrictions for those who want to leave the war torn region. However, this does not mean that we should only accept professional classes, which are urgently needed in their own nations.

  109. David LubellOctober 5, 2014 at 11:15 am #

    No, of course I don’t. Anyone thinking coherently (difficult I know, but…..) would not be in favour. Peggy Mason’s essay is clear evidence for the futility, indeed the counter-productivity, of the actions advocated by the current federal government.

  110. Susan EyreOctober 5, 2014 at 11:13 am #

    No Canadian involvement in Iraq. Stop selling weapons of war. Profit from war is disgusting! This war is a complete distraction from the crisis of climate -change that we should all be addressing ASAP!

  111. Lynda BairdOctober 5, 2014 at 10:34 am #

    NO! It will never stop if we just one more war.

    • David K. StewartOctober 5, 2014 at 11:11 am #

      Make peace, Not War!

  112. Joan GilroyOctober 5, 2014 at 10:13 am #

    As most responders have said. war does not resolve differences, issues, problems, crises. Surely we can find different solutions for huge problems which we all face. Please, no more war.

    The current government has not really consulted or planning to consult the Canadian people and our reps. Apparently it does not have to consult but doing so should make for a better decision, in my view s, using diplomacy, humanitarian aid, education (educating ourselves about the middle east as well as others) to try to solve our, the world’s probems.

  113. RedtailOctober 5, 2014 at 10:01 am #

    I do not agree with Canada’s involvement in this misguided war effort.
    America is always seeking to find another ‘Red Under The Bed’ .As soon as one of their Nationals gets involved or is killed, America is up for annihilating any and all they think were involved in this (sometimes contrived) “atrocity!
    Here we go again.
    Mr Harper and his Republican-inspired, ilk snapping to attention .. chanting “Ready Aye Ready, Sir”!

    Too bad Mr. Harper does not sit down and read a book or 2 on American Military History. It is well documented that 1)America gets involved, 2)kills a large number of innocent civilians, 3)becomes bogged down then 4)pulls out, 5)leaving the original situation worse off than when they came in.
    It is curious that Harper spends public monies trying to glorify Canada’s past involvement in wars, from the mess of 1812 to WW2 rather than attempting to play a position more historically accurate in this country.
    That of supporting efforts to find a diplomatic way through whatever mess the Americans have gotten themselves into yet again.
    Time is something we used to spend on these efforts. Now we have electronic technology, we have no time for words….just watch until the situation gets to “Red Line’ status, then just fire up the drones & go in and kill ‘em.
    This is bound to further de-stabilize this already fractured region (WW1-2 anyone?). Wait until North America gets another 911-style hit as is bound to happen.
    Whoopee, now Canada is on the list.
    Thanks Steve!!
    Perhaps we are doomed and this is finally the commencement of the “War of All Wars” we have also been warned about in the history books.
    A pox on all their houses.
    R/EH

  114. Carlos GomesOctober 5, 2014 at 9:30 am #

    No to further war invovement by Canada. No to sending our planes to bomb and shoot fellow human beings and to destroying their homes their workplaces, their cities, villages and their lives. No to war, no to the lies.

  115. Dave TurchynskyOctober 5, 2014 at 9:07 am #

    ISIS is not a state. It is a terrorist organization. F18′s or the latest gizmo coming out of the Skunk Works isn’t going to accomplish anything. That’s been proven in Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya and a whole host of other places where blasting things to kingdom come only made things worse.

  116. Dennis DaveyOctober 5, 2014 at 8:31 am #

    Canada should definitely participate in this conflict, by providing support for PEOPLE in desperate circumstances FIRST AND FORMOST. Harper deciding to put pilots at risk in 6 aging aircraft should be no surprise to anyone, a man desperate to be seen as a pivotal player on the world stage.

  117. John TurnerOctober 5, 2014 at 7:57 am #

    No. Harper is acting out his personal fantasies with the added bonus of using the war, any war, as a part of his re-election strategy. Harper is a psychopath.

    • Dave TurchynskyOctober 5, 2014 at 9:09 am #

      Thanks John. You saved me some time. :)

  118. Michel DupontOctober 5, 2014 at 7:31 am #

    No. It’s funny these islamic extremists were backed by the US via Turkey, Quatar, Israel, Arabia and became the ISIS. They is something very fishyin this funny war. It is just like NATO backing the neo-nazi gouverment of Ukraine and of the massacred people aboard Malaysian Airlaines not by a missil but a Su 25 Ukraine aircraft. Were is the truth, when our leaders break every laws against their own citizens

  119. Helen MacLeanOctober 5, 2014 at 7:12 am #

    Hungry people, abandoned and orphaned children, bereft parents, confused young adults, impoverished nations, all the result of righteous assaults by those who have strength and authority over the livelihood, peace, creativity, love and sanctity of others.
    This is not my commitment to my fellow humans or the environment.

  120. Jim CarmichaelOctober 5, 2014 at 6:47 am #

    I am opposed to Canadian military intervention in Iraq. Canada should play a role in this crisis, but it should be focused on humanitarian assistance, support for refugees, and institution-building aimed at developing a much more effective and inclusive government in Iraq. There may be a need for outside military intervention to protect lives, but if so, this should be the job of those countries who invaded Iraq in 2003, thus destabilizing it and and laying the conditions for the current crisis. Canada made the correct decision not to be involved militarily then, and should not be involved militarily now.

    • Michael TimsOctober 5, 2014 at 9:40 am #

      Jim, I agree with your historical resolution of this conflict. History didn’t start the day ISIS started killing. There are reasons why terrorism continues in the middle east, not the least being American and British involvement there for many decades. Colonialism isn’t over; its face has changed. The west cannot resolve the conflicts it helped create, nor the internal conflicts that have been simmering for a longer time. Humanitarian aid yes, military involvement no.
      Also, importantly, Mr. Harper has as usual refused to meet the modern democratic standard of open discussion and information sharing so that Canadians can be informed in
      order to make a wise decision. May the Harper caliphate end soon.

  121. Tom MullanOctober 5, 2014 at 5:23 am #

    War does not solve the differences, nor does it eliminate them. The Middle East continues to suffer the outrage of WW1.

  122. Linda PattersonOctober 5, 2014 at 4:57 am #

    Surely US approval of a bitumen pipeline doesn’t warrant complicity in dropping bombs on Iraq and Syria. Or, does Prime Minister Harper believe that by supporting another war he will prevent the imminent implosion of the dollar currency, the banks and the stock market? The level of support that the US is receiving from numerous countries, would suggest that much more is at stake than preventing kidnapping, raping , and beheading; because, worse incidents including horrific mutilations have been occurring in Africa with little enthusiasm for intervention at the level that is being organized in the Middle East (for what appears to be the original US plan: regime change in Syria.
    When Saudi Arabia’s export of Wahabi Sunnis to Syria and Lebanon didn’t succeed in providing enough impetus to overthrow the government in Syria, support was given by the US to train “moderate”, but more frequently, as it turned out, radical Sunni fighters in Jordan. Also, weapons were being shipped through Croatia, prior to Croatia joining the EU in July1, 2013, arming the Syrian Islamist dominated opposition, while the official EU embargo was still in force, and the US preferred, at that stage, not to be too directlly associated with arming them. Then, as the “moderate” fighters were losing ground, gas attacks occurred as UN investigators arrived in Syria. These were claimed by the US to have been launched by the Syrian government forces (which sounds too similar to “weapons of mass destruction” to be believable, particularly in view of the US goal of getting rid of Bashar al-Assad, and that the government forces were strengthening their position).
    What is most surprising in this plot to remove Assad is that his government appears to be the only one in the area that actually protects minorities and rejects radical forms of Islam. There is no prohibition against the usual taboos that exist in Saudi Arabia that have resulted in 41 be-headings in this year alone. One would think that considering the US’ use of the Syrian government for its policy of rendition, that it would be less critical in view of its own violations against humanity.
    It should be obvious by now that I don’t support a combat mission in Iraq or Syria and I believe assistance should be offered to assuage the suffering that has been and is occurring in both countries as a result of the nefarious scheming that is creating yet more failed states.

    • redtailOctober 5, 2014 at 10:39 am #

      Well stated.
      I have a terrible feeling this is the beginning of the end.
      America’s war machine is now fully unsheathed. They are making the final push to dominate the world….. as has been their ‘destiny’ after all.
      It began long ago with the Russian Czars, the Brits. pick your ‘country collector’.
      More recently using the west has used Iraq &Afghanistan as the ‘worms’ into the region … necklace Russia, create discord among the disparate Muslim population, install Karzai as the ‘puppet- oil-guy buddy-president’.. fund the US war machine by co-opting the poppy harvest through the CIA, kill off as many ‘dissenters’ as possible in an already ‘weakened’ country, dispatch the Army Corps of Engineers to ‘find’ the mineral wealth of tthe region, then go forth and de-stabilize Syria try to further created trouble and further maligne Russia (as if there isn’t enough of THAT), in Iran accusing them of nuclear transgressions … lucky THEY are smarter than that …. so far.
      Harper is kow-tow-ing to the Tea-Party/Republican/Religious Right ideology hoping this anal world-view will at last get Obama to sign his wet-dream-inducing Keystone XL Pipeline ‘deal’.
      Obama is playing him like a ‘Harp’.
      Harper is not dealing with anyone in good faith and is a neophyte fool pushed by the Global Corporate agenda (CETA, FIPA) all really bad deals for Canada.

      The situation in Asia is all linked with the same rope.
      It has been predicted and foretold by many historians over many decades.
      It is not a new story so is interesting to see it play out in modern times … the new ‘empire’.
      Too bad it likely will spell the end of ‘civilization’ as we know it.
      Dark days ahead, my friend.

  123. robOctober 5, 2014 at 3:16 am #

    Harpy is an anal sphincter of epic proportions. He is leading Canada’s Armed Forces down the path of folly on a mission that does has neither UN approval nor NATO sanction.

  124. Shawn NemethOctober 5, 2014 at 2:00 am #

    Let Merika steal fossil fules on their own, let them try and keep the petro dollar alive its not our problem. If harper wants to help put on a uniform pick up a gun and take the rest of your lying scumbag chronies with ya

  125. Nauman MithaniOctober 5, 2014 at 1:27 am #

    This is not our conflict. Why should we spend millions upon millions of Canadian taxpayer dollars on another country’s conflict in yet another country.

  126. Patricia KoretchukOctober 5, 2014 at 12:42 am #

    “No troops on the ground, but many planes in the air.” Is that supposed to make an act of war somehow safer? Or more humane? Do those bombs and bullets launched from those planes have the ability to discriminate between the majority of men, women and innocent children who are NOT terrorists, and those who ARE terrorists? Also, consider that many Canadian airforce personnel could be placed either in grave danger, or lowered into their graves. War breeds more hatred, which breeds more war. Stop this madness! Find a win-win international solution.

  127. Carol BlevinsOctober 5, 2014 at 12:29 am #

    Complete insanity…….seems we will never learn!!!!! food and shelter…NEVER bombs

  128. Allan S TaylorOctober 5, 2014 at 12:16 am #

    Canadians are not war mongers. Leave the fighting to the Muslim world.
    Canada should be providing food, water, shelter, not airplanes and bombs.

  129. Stella BrittonOctober 4, 2014 at 11:43 pm #

    No. Absolutely not. We should be peace keepers, not making war.

  130. John HarderOctober 4, 2014 at 10:47 pm #

    When will we ever learn! Send in the military and we’ll rain bombs on the heads of friends as well as foes. And we’ll wonder, once again, why our friends turn against us and our foes swell in numbers.

  131. Eric UngerOctober 4, 2014 at 9:42 pm #

    No. And Harper knows it. Why do people go on thinking ‘just one more war, and we’ll finally have peace’?

    “I went into the British Army believing that if you want peace, you must prepare for war. I believe now that if you prepare thoroughly for war, you will get war.” Major General Sir Frederick Maurice

  132. John BogieOctober 4, 2014 at 8:38 pm #

    No. what a waist of money and possible loss of lives. The enemy has gone underground after the earlier strikes, now hard to find, jet fighters will not do it need C-130′s Gun Ships or A-10 types to help the ground troops in fire fights. Now they could kill a lot of civilians or the troops we are helping like what happened in Afgan Canadian troops being bombed by the USAF fighter aircraft by mistake also happened in Libya.

  133. Elizabeth MitchellOctober 4, 2014 at 8:18 pm #

    A resounding NO!!! Canada was always a peace keeping nation and should stay that way. Canadian citizens should have been asked for their opinion, before he ( the Prime Minister), decided to send air power with bombs. The 68 or 69 special forces, over there now are supposed to be back shortly, God keep them all safe! Becoming involved in this war is absolutely wrong!

  134. allan w masseyOctober 4, 2014 at 8:11 pm #

    no no no no more wars enough is enough

  135. Rielle LévesqueOctober 4, 2014 at 8:07 pm #

    I’m against using money to kill people. Violence only brings on more violence.

    This government has cut jobs, cut help to the poorest of this country, and has cut back transfers for the health care system to the provinces, but now want’s to spend huge amounts on war. What’s this all about???

    When too many people get too poor, they get violent. This is why after world war 2, the eastern countries signed treaties bounding them to provide welfare and minimum wage. Now we’re being told it’s not good for our economy. Strangely enough, the thirty years after world war 2 are called the glorious thirties.
    I think were heading for disaster.

  136. Mona MouawadOctober 4, 2014 at 7:59 pm #

    Yes I do Agree with Mr Harper, Cause we Are not attacking innocent people or children, We are after ISIS . If we don`t get rid of them they would spread like cancer.

    • Nicole Chaplain-PearmanOctober 5, 2014 at 10:07 am #

      I don’t normally support conflicts, but I agree with you on this one. We have to fight ISIS because there is no reasoning with them.

  137. Gisela RollingOctober 4, 2014 at 7:57 pm #

    What is Harper trying to achieve? You cannot make peace with war. Only greater anger will result from killing some of them, greater causes for retaliation. What happened to peace-keeping?

  138. Stewart McInnesOctober 4, 2014 at 7:56 pm #

    I most certainly do not approve of our involvement in Iraq

  139. Aljosa MujagicOctober 4, 2014 at 7:54 pm #

    Definitely not! He plays as USA asking. Who gave the weapons to the ISIS? Answer NATO & USA. Are they the same people who destroyed Libya and killed Gadafi?
    Are they willing to sell oil for the petrol dollars? Is this only to control crude oil or sell “democracy” to the mid east people? This request an answer.

  140. Nick KubashOctober 4, 2014 at 7:44 pm #

    I am diametrically opposed to any war. There is more we could be doing together than continuing the status quo. Lets stop fighting and come together! Peace!!

  141. Rick CharlestonOctober 4, 2014 at 7:41 pm #

    We’re just playing into their hands and it won’t solve anything. And how many innocent men women and children will be killed in the process?

  142. Murray LumleyOctober 4, 2014 at 7:39 pm #

    All bombing needs to end. Joe Guinean’s article is the best argument I have seen for why this barely 100 year old tactic needs to end. We cannot call ourselves civilized while we continue to allow our governments to continue to kill innocents from a distance. Diplomacy, true aid and an end to all types of colonialism must replace bombing if we are to have any chance of survival.
    https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/joe-guinan/bombs-away-air-power-as-panacea

  143. Cyril MillerOctober 4, 2014 at 7:38 pm #

    I am 100% against invading Iraq AGAIN!!!

  144. Philip De RosaOctober 4, 2014 at 7:35 pm #

    Ray said it right

  145. Hugh McLeodOctober 4, 2014 at 7:32 pm #

    Violence regardless of its cause is never the right action. It is, sometimes, the necessary thing to do. Those who murder, torture and use violence against others need to be stopped. This applies in the Middle East as much as it applies here in Canada. The problem with U.S. policy and with Mr. Harper’s following of that policy is not that those named do not deserve to be stopped. The problem is that dropping bombs, shooting guns or executing those who commit crimes against humanity will not stop the violence. What will stop the violence, here as well as there, is to address the causes. In Canada, poverty, discrimination, mental illness and, yes, “evil”. In the Middle East, all of the foregoing made much worse by centuries of interference by colonial powers such as Britain, France, Germany, Italy and of course the U.S. of A. If we can do nothing better than, yes, kill those who will not give up biolence but remember that in the absence of dealing with causes murder is no solution.

  146. Brian ShiltonOctober 4, 2014 at 7:30 pm #

    We need to look for lomg tern solutions.. Military intervention should only be pursued if there are clear objectives and endpoints, which I don’t see. ISIS is trying to provoke a response, and a military response only plays into their goal of polarization.

  147. Michael HollowayOctober 4, 2014 at 7:16 pm #

    Not one dime; not one drop of blood for the Empire. Time for Canada to go back to peace keeping and a diplomatic focus.
    What we are helping to create in the Middle East with our bombing and occupations, are the conditions that will create the suicide bombers of the future; who’s insane ineffective revenge will further propel the Empire’s never-ending Global War [for Oil] on Terror.

  148. Victor de Hrussoczy WirthOctober 4, 2014 at 7:11 pm #

    DEFINITELY NOT!!!
    HIS ACTION IS CONTRARY TO THE BASIC PRINCIPLES ESTABLISHED BY PREVIOUS GOVERNMENTS AND THE CANADIAN PEOPLE’S WILL.
    CANADIANS HAVE TRIED AND SUCCEEDED WELL IN PEACE PROCESSES!
    WHY THE SUDDEN CHANGE? IS IT BECAUSE THE “SHADOW GOVERNMENT” OF THE WORLD EXPECTS HIM TO DO SO????
    HE SHOULD REPRESENT THE CANADIANS AND NOT OTHER INTERESTS!!

  149. Alister|G. HarrisonOctober 4, 2014 at 7:07 pm #

    Very strongly against Harper’s idea of involvement . Against sending any Canadian troops to Iraq and also against the planes and manpower offered by Harper. Wrong! Wrong! wrong!

  150. Patricia SkyOctober 4, 2014 at 7:05 pm #

    No. No. No. As many have commented, this makes me sick at heart. Not what Canada does.

  151. joyce woodsOctober 4, 2014 at 7:02 pm #

    I am opposed to any Canadian involvement in war or violence in Iraq.

  152. Maria HeynenOctober 4, 2014 at 6:43 pm #

    Absolutely not.
    It seems (is) total insanity. Have we not learned anything? We are creating the so called ‘terrorists’ by those actions.
    And alternatives to be involved in other ways than bombing are there.

    • Ray SunstrumOctober 4, 2014 at 6:51 pm #

      Definitely not. Humanitarian aid is the way to go. Canada needs to get back to its peacekeeping role. War is not a path to peace.

      • Mona MouawadOctober 4, 2014 at 7:57 pm #

        I think that is a good idea, cause if we don`t get rid of ISIS there they would spread all over and it would be our problem soon.. We are against war, but we are not going to kill innocent people or children , We are trying to get rid of the Bad people (ISIS). So i do agree with Mr. Harper.

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  153. Tarin SultanaOctober 4, 2014 at 6:33 pm #

    I believe in the behavioral ‘transitional doors’. Since closely living side by side, the peaceful Canadians shouldn’t make the oppression worse by joining the US forces. Another way to think about these transitional doors is ‘mind melding’. You must not let your decision to be influenced by others.

  154. Jim ShepardOctober 4, 2014 at 6:32 pm #

    Sorry to have pressed the wrong button just now. I thought for a second I was saying yes to the opposition opposing sending Canadian military involvement to Iraq. I cannot overemphasize my opposition to this criminal back-door bombing of Syria. The entire push toward Canada making war in the Mid-East after 10 useless, heartbreaking, corrupting, criminal years of supporting torturing drug lords in Afghanistan sickens me to the bottom of my soul. The Harper crew, flunkies for American big oil and the US military industrial complex, have besmirched my country. Now that Lockheed Martin ( the F-35 flying money pit) and the rest of the US war-contracts oligarchy need another little war to boost their flagging profit line Canada will step up and say “Sir, Yes Sir” because we have a government of Alberta Oil Banksters? Sir, No Sir!

  155. david walmarkOctober 4, 2014 at 6:27 pm #

    War is not the answer . Bombing kills civilians more than ISIS , whatever claims may be made for precision targeting . The US is primarily responsible for ISIS and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Iraq earlier. Stop the insanity.

  156. Ann AndrewsOctober 4, 2014 at 6:21 pm #

    I do not support violence of any kind – it never solves anything. We were warned by a top ranking American General to “beware the Industrial Military Complex” with good reason. The manufacture of arms make it imperative to find customers and this in my view is the cause of most conflicts. Humanity must learn to solve problems diplomatically.

  157. Brian DannielsOctober 4, 2014 at 5:36 pm #

    No

  158. JocelynOctober 4, 2014 at 4:28 pm #

    Harper is evil incarnate – just one look into his beady shifty eyes says it all! He is not even the legal PM of Canada since the Supreme Court ruled that the election that gave him the majority was indeed tainted with electoral fraud. So WHY may ask is he still in office, still conducting his affairs as a ruthless dictator and destroying the very fabric of Canadian principles, values, international relationships, environmental protection and life? Harper is far more evil than those of ISIS as he believes in nothing more than personal power and money! Isn’t it time that Canadians stand up for our country and kick him out of office assay before he can find more Canadian values to destroy (shall we start with democracy?)!

  159. Peter WallaceOctober 4, 2014 at 4:28 pm #

    We are the problem not the solution. The west has made many weapons that kill and sell these to anyone who asks. Time to stop that. The west supports any nation that has energy reserves that we want (oil and gas) and as such support repressive governments. Time to stop that. Military action seems to be a quick answer to some global problems but only leads to prolonged and far bigger problems, The best way to solve world/global problems is through negotiation and yes that takes time and in today’s world of wanting instant solutions that is a concept that is hard to grasp but one that we must. Time to stop and negotiate, think and make a lasting solution.

  160. PeterOctober 4, 2014 at 4:26 pm #

    NO. I am repelled by Mr. Harper and by any notion that he is a healthy human being.
    Look at who his friends are. Show me your list of who they are and I’ll show you mine. As a Canadian, I cling to the shreds of the reputation that he has shamelessly ruined, that of our being peacemakers and honest brokers and not simply the 51st State.
    NO. I do not support making war. I support causing peace , building peace. IMHO, looking for people to hate is to frighten voters and to profiteer on military spending.

  161. Robert (Ron) WalkerOctober 4, 2014 at 4:07 pm #

    Because the coalition is outside of a United Nations mandate and intends to overthrow the government of Syria Canada would be committing the crime of war and violating its obligation under the United Nations Treaty defiling an organization our government of the day helped organize to end the scourge of Fascism and war.

  162. Eileen M RobinsonOctober 4, 2014 at 4:03 pm #

    What about the human beings who are fleeing from these terrorists. We need to help them, isnt that what Canada does best?

  163. Wendy KaelinOctober 4, 2014 at 3:55 pm #

    I read something someone said today and it made a lot of sense; I apologize I don’t know who said it, but to paraphrase it was along the line of (The idea that we would go to war over 3000 men no one ever heard of until 5 months ago is absurd as is the idea that they will take over the world if we don’t go to war.) In my opinion he is doing this for Obama so he will return the favour with the approval of the Keystone Pipeline. Add to this that neither opposition party agrees does not make democratic sense. The people that did not vote for Harper in the last election outnumber those that did. He eschews democratic values & that is what our country used to be about.

  164. David K. StewartOctober 4, 2014 at 3:51 pm #

    A am absolutely opposed to Canada engaging in any kind of combat role in Iraq. We were once recognized for our peace keeping efforts and sending war planes into a war zone is not what we should be doing. Mr Harper needs to know that he is not speaking on behalf of the Canadian people.

  165. HussanOctober 4, 2014 at 3:49 pm #

    Regardless of what anyone may claim air attacks against terrorists kill far more innocent civilians and very few terrorists, if any. It is almost certain if they are serious about dealing with ISIS they will sooner or later end up having ground combat troops in Iraq and Syria. In the end all that we would have achieved is more dead Canadians one way or another. Have we learnt nothing from the misadventure in Afghanistan? It is a terrible mistake for the wrong reasons.

  166. Lester PearsonOctober 4, 2014 at 3:28 pm #

    How would we like death and terror raining down from the sky over our towns and cities, regardless of whether or not their are some bad guys living or travelling through the area. We know very well that innocent civilians will die because of us. All we hear from our media and politicians is how disgusting and evil the enemy is. Of course, in order to justify ourselves we always paint the enemies as super evil, but since we kill more than they do, and also allow more inhumanity against men in other countries like the Congo, and Darfur it is clear that we are not doing this for humanitarian, or noble causes. We are doing this only because they are resource rich, Blood for oil, the old refrain. The West has been bombing the middle east since 1911. It is our go to strategy. Bomb them into the middle ages, destroy their infrastructure, then deride them for being backwards, and vengeful. Harper could not be any more hypocritical, and we as a people who allow this to happen could not be any more stupid if we tried. While it rains death from the skies over Iraq and Syria, it will rain money for those few U.S. weapons manufacturers. Let them sort out their differences themselves. We did during our reformation, but our constant interference is delaying theirs reformation and age of enlightenment.

  167. Ida HendersonOctober 4, 2014 at 3:28 pm #

    Canada can bomb Iraq, maybe Syria; we can fly two European muckety-mucks home on an Airbus so they won’t miss a cocktail party in Toronto; but can we get more-than-urgently-needed protective medical equipment to Ebola-ravaged African countries???

    How warped can we get?

  168. Barry McGroryOctober 4, 2014 at 3:02 pm #

    During the period of the crusades, St. Francis of Assisi, whose feast is today, walked alone into the court of the caliph and they talked. We don’t know what they said, but it was likely something spiritual. Both sides will have to talk eventually today. Could we pull a St. Francis BEFORE all the killing? And has the killing helped anyone lately

  169. Frances DeverellOctober 4, 2014 at 3:00 pm #

    There is no possible way that military interference can change the dynamics in this region or “defeat ISIS”. We require a completely different approach which will be a combination of many things and will take a long time, and we must always remember that if we believe in democracy then we must remember that a people has their own culture and stage of development and democracy cannot be forced upon them. It must be learned, practiced, and built up over time within the experience of the people itself.

    • gautraisOctober 4, 2014 at 3:04 pm #

      I do not approve in war It does not resolved anything
      let’s look into who does make profit out of it ???

      Canadian should not be involved in it !!!

  170. HollyOctober 4, 2014 at 2:52 pm #

    No. Now I suppose I won’t be eligible for a job with the federal government.

  171. Bev CurrieOctober 4, 2014 at 2:47 pm #

    Just to set the record straight I voted to support the motion thinking I was voting to support an opposition motion. The wording is a little ambiguous.
    Let the record show that I support all those who oppose Harper’s motion.

  172. Jim GavesOctober 4, 2014 at 2:36 pm #

    When will we learn that killing (especially the innocent: children) will not solve anything.

    Bombing is a cowardice way for our leaders to solve this problem.

    We all know that it will be followed by boots on the ground.

  173. DhOctober 4, 2014 at 2:31 pm #

    I oppose any and all Military Industrial Complex “wars”.

  174. Michael MainOctober 4, 2014 at 2:30 pm #

    I do not approve of Canada’s combat mission in Iraq

  175. Alfred MumaOctober 4, 2014 at 2:26 pm #

    Off to war again Canada is! Why? The last war just recently was not won by any one side but many lives were lost both civilians and solders. When will our leaders learn war does not solve problems but creates new problems for those caught in the conflict. Oh, I forgot, arms dealers love war. They make great profits at the price of others lives. Our governments are right in there with those dealers making and spending money to keep the military economy going. That’s what it is all about, always has been and will be. Canada has joined the American military economy. And to keep it growing we’ll have to be in more conflicts. Harper is well aware of this fact and is fully supporting this military economy. Somehow we have to reverse this trend and return to saner ways to stimulate the economy without killing our fellow people all over the world. Oh, and to really look at the issues that have started all the conflicts and really do something positive about them, like sit down and talk it over.

  176. FranOctober 4, 2014 at 2:23 pm #

    All Harper seems to want to do is go to war with everybody. Canada is not a major military force. Maybe it is time we support peace instead of war.

  177. Cym GomeryOctober 4, 2014 at 2:21 pm #

    I am not an ideologue who judges every issue based on whether there is profit to be made… therefore I do not approve Harper’s bull**** mission in Iraq.

  178. Marlene TravisOctober 4, 2014 at 2:20 pm #

    The people do not want occupation by foreign countries Bombing civilian populations only radicalizes the population When will we ever learn!

  179. tomtomOctober 4, 2014 at 2:12 pm #

    You want to start a 1000 year long war with these folks for what Steve?

  180. Lois BrayOctober 4, 2014 at 2:00 pm #

    I do not approve of Harper’s combat mission in Iraq

  181. AllanOctober 4, 2014 at 1:54 pm #

    Let us not be tricked into accepting Harper’s binary view of the world. There are alternatives to being involved militarily in Iraq War II; and sitting on the sidelines.These are just Harper’s simplistic proposals.
    A peaceful solution is only being delayed by Harper’s warmongering.

  182. Roy MurrayOctober 4, 2014 at 1:51 pm #

    The big lesson of history is that people never learn from history. How much more bombing is needed before we alienate every citizen of that region?
    Canada should not be part of this.

  183. John MclenahanOctober 4, 2014 at 1:43 pm #

    If one does any historical work on one S Harper, one is struck by the rise to leadership of a person notable as a nobody in youth and a disciple of T Flannigan at U of C -even to the extent that he attended Republican ‘Boot camp’ in the US as part of his course work-& then fell off the Flannigan band wagon to the point of renouncing his former mentor-to the point of forbidding party faithful even talking to him. A person of limited world view closes govt. science accumulations, forbids scientists to speak, and then has the nerve to use the term science as a statement of relative worth. All of this after spearheading the spending millions on the canned revisionist ‘ history of Canada’
    And Canadians are expected to follow this guy’s leadership in a war that is bound to be quite destructive to Canada and the world without achieving much if anything +ive.. Steve-You are amoral and a bully!

  184. John RabideauOctober 4, 2014 at 1:40 pm #

    N.A.T.O. in practice now stands for Nations Aligning Terrorist Organizations!

    ISIS is another smokescreen for the 1% taking everything from the 99% by any means and at any cost.
    After all the 99% taxpayers are the final holders of all debt…

    Canada like the US is now totally controlled by Mussad trained financial terrorist agents or some variation there of….!For example ,Mark Carney(former governor of the Bank of Canada who orchestrated our wonderful so called housing bubble ) is still serving them well bilking the Brits.)

    It costs approximately $250,000 to over $4.500,000 (US)dollars to purchase each of the US type of bombs according to some sources…before operating and delivery costs are even added.

    Steven Harper and his lap dogs are setting us up for World War 4 ( at least that’s what they appear to be committed to on our behalf) while filling the bank accounts of the military-industrial complex corporations. An area Canada is becoming heavily involved in…

    I’m hiding the fact that I’m Canadian these days….

    I’ll be damned before I wave the Israeli flag over Canada along with Harper, the ideal Zionist poster boy, or perhaps puppet is a better word.

    And, you may have guested it by now:

    I do not support our mission into Iraq or any other country, regardless whether we could really afford it or not! Crimes against humanity are irrelevant ! Right? After all look how many so called leaders of these NATO countries are openly supporting wholesale slaughter of in of whole populations while blaming it on others.

    Every one of these war efforts or incidents of chaos are smokescreens to justify the overthrow of legitimate sovereign countries whose wealth has to be stolen from them because much of the rest of the world’s countries under the control of The Fed
    eral Reserve private banking cartel are insolvent…

    And to put it into a broader and more encompassing context:
    Unlike The Chosen Ones , I do not support The 4th Reich 1000 year dream, of One
    World Order .

    • fernandOctober 4, 2014 at 2:11 pm #

      I could not have expressed my views any better. Thanks!
      Found this timely authoritative view on the subject today:
      http://www.wanttoknow.info/warisaracket.shtml

      • Jim GavesOctober 4, 2014 at 2:40 pm #

        Well said!

  185. GordOctober 4, 2014 at 1:38 pm #

    Harper’s eagerness to entangle Canada in yet another military action to act in concert with U.S. imperialism is an affront to peace-loving Canadians. His reasons for attacking ISIL reek of hypocrisy. He defends Israel’s murdering Gaza civilians including children while excoriating ISIL for cruelty to civilians. But ISIL is the nemesis of George Bush’s invasion of Iraq and the subsequent destabilization of the Middle East. Harper was in favor of that one too. People are right to fear that Western bombings will affect more than ISIL and that it will be of benefit to the Syrian despotism to boot.

  186. PennyOctober 4, 2014 at 1:37 pm #

    No I do not, help our own country first by following through not letting them in here. And quit arming them so that they can do this do us. Harper do not send our young men and women over there to die. Harper you go and fight by yourself or along with Obama.

  187. Wanda LaurinOctober 4, 2014 at 1:21 pm #

    Instead of sending military aircraft, go after the suppliers of the armaments to these groups. Stop the trade of arms. Take away their ability to continue to fight: stop the trade in ammunition. I’m sure the US and some arms suppliers in Europe are making a heck of a profit from this military action. Stop the peddlers of arms.

  188. Chris RoseOctober 4, 2014 at 1:18 pm #

    The bombing of more civilians including a few “terrorists” is a total waste of money and time and the natural opposition to your present economic/financial systems will not be resolved with dynamite. We need a totally new social structure free of the dominations of big corporations. We need an equalisation of income.
    Harper is on the wrong track as in nearly all programs he started!

  189. Lily DerksenOctober 4, 2014 at 1:15 pm #

    Bombing and airstrikes is the easy answer, that costs lives and money. When a crime is committed at home, we do not decide to bomb the city where the crime took place to make sure we get the “bad guys”, and too bad if it means we kill innocent victims, destroy the infrastructure of schools and hospitals. Instead, we have investigators that look for motive, find the person responsible for the crime, arrest the specific individual, form a gang task force if it is gang related, etc. Perhaps it is time that the terror “experts” actually develop and propose effective means of dealing with these situations that will not deepen the passing on of violent histories and atrocities to the next generation as history has shown.

  190. Sharon LorzOctober 4, 2014 at 1:13 pm #

    Mission Creep is here already. Harper nhas no idea where it will stop. I’m not sure hen wants it to stop! S

  191. JonOctober 4, 2014 at 1:12 pm #

    Harper is a total ass…..a mindless idiot.

  192. Myra TrainorOctober 4, 2014 at 1:05 pm #

    Creating more violence is just what the terrorists want. It is a barbaric response. Why do we not try other ways. Is it the ploitical will that is missing? Easy for Mr . Harper to sit in his cozy seat and ask poor soldiers to go out and kill their fellow human beings.

  193. Arlene FekeOctober 4, 2014 at 1:04 pm #

    I think Tom Mulcair is right. We should send humanitarian aid to the desperate people who have been forced from their homes and are facing a bitter winter without shelter or adequate clothing. Their situation is precarious and will result in many agonizing deaths from starvation and exposure. Let’s be compassionate rather than war-like.

    Harper is getting the war he has wanted ever since 2003 when he wanted to join George W. Bush’s ill-considered war on Iraq. It is that war that has sown the seeds of this one.

  194. TonyaOctober 4, 2014 at 12:58 pm #

    This same question keeps coming to mind…Wouldn’t the billions of dollars invested (and made), for these wars, be better spent on negotiating peace and related practices?

  195. Richard FahlmanOctober 4, 2014 at 12:55 pm #

    Clearly our Steve has some sort of pathetic neurosis and tormenting feeling of inadequacy. The country would benefit enormously if we funded some therapy, and possibly a penile implant, if it eased his compulsion to be a weenie waving wannabe tough guy at the level of the bigger boys. His comprehension of the workings of military brinksmanship bears no relationship to his purported dedication to the teachings of Christ and this revelation of his flaming hypocrisy offers insight into the tragic thinking behind all of his social policy positions. The man should spend the rest of his days in a care facility where he can be prevented from harming himself and the rest of us.

    • Nancy CrozierOctober 4, 2014 at 1:29 pm #

      Right on Richard!! We should institute an internet comedy hour totally dedicated to our “good Christian PM” . It would be an effortless hour of absurdity. Poor Canadians , all we seem to be able to do is laugh at Stevie. Can’t we arrest him? Or arrest his acts of hubris? Harper does not act for me , or even most of the Canadian population.
      Join Fair Vote and get proportional representation on the debate between PM Candidates.

    • John RabideauOctober 4, 2014 at 2:17 pm #

      Harper is a subject of MK Ultra and Tavishtock Institute mind altering indoctrination…

  196. DebbieOctober 4, 2014 at 12:55 pm #

    I do not support PM Harper sending fighter jets to bomb Iraq.

  197. Lloyd MacLeanOctober 4, 2014 at 12:54 pm #

    I definitely do not agree with Harper’s plan to involve our military in the US -led fight in Iraq and Syria. When will the politicians learn that Western military meddling in the affairs of Middle Eastern countries only leads to more problems for everyone — including us — and the destruction of infrastructure and unacceptable civilian casualties and deaths. As for the danger to Canadians posed by these extremists — if any exists, it is thanks to the bellicose posturing of Harper and others. These politicians were never elected to meddle in international affairs in this manner, and apparently find themselves not up to the task of solving the myriad problems here at home. War is never the answer.

  198. Lovey CridgeOctober 4, 2014 at 12:53 pm #

    Money can be better spent helping seniors, homeless. Fix roads, build bridges, create jobs for unemployed, etc., etc.

    • Timothy HickeyOctober 4, 2014 at 1:23 pm #

      Great point made here – My question to you – The politics being played by both the conservatives and Liberals is pathetic! How do we make the right change so that a Real Majority of Canadians will have the authority to say yes or no|?

  199. PeterOctober 4, 2014 at 12:50 pm #

    While no fan of Harper, I don’t see how we can evade making a contributionn to the overthrow of the essentially evil ISIS. Our commitment is modest but better than nothing. It is clear that troops on the ground will be needed but perhaps it is time some Arab and Muslim countries put their own troops in harm’s way. They stand to lose the most from this menace.

  200. Julie McCarrollOctober 4, 2014 at 12:46 pm #

    Going to war is simply giving these terrorists what they want. Totally wrongheaded. The immediate solution, is to insist through all means possible to get the extremely well-armed Saudis and other Muslim states to fight these people. All economic sanctions should apply. Also Turkey must fight.

  201. DonOctober 4, 2014 at 12:43 pm #

    Will this be a repeat of the bombing of Libya where depleted uranium bombs were used? harper should be at ground zero if that is the case. In fact, harper should be at ground zero in any case. Are you aware that harper and his minion, mike chong think that Monsanto’s Roundup is good for the soil gmos are planted in.

  202. AnickOctober 4, 2014 at 12:42 pm #

    I never support the crime ministers evil & destructive ideas. The only action I would support is for him to kill himself.

  203. peter francisOctober 4, 2014 at 12:38 pm #

    Parts of the Middle East still live very close to long held cultural beliefs that it is good to be a warrior and to kill others. I recently came across a 1965 Soldier of Fortune magazine with an article on the coming of age rituals for tribe members which required them to go out and kill someone the more barbarous the better.
    If fail to see how playing their game, giving them an arena to prove manliness whatever that is, can help to solve anything. Some people seem to need an enemy, I do not wish to become anyones enemy. I think the only reasonable way is to lead by example and that bombing is a very poor example that makes it ok for the recipient to respond in kind.

  204. Sylvia Pelletier-GravelOctober 4, 2014 at 12:34 pm #

    War propagates hate and hate propagates wars. If politicians could start using their hearts and their brains instead of their finger happy and power trip reflexes, we may be able to build a better world. It is impossible to gain peace after all the destruction and lost of lives that wars bring. Can’t we just share the wealth instead of stealing it. I did not bring children into this world to have them butchered or to see them blowing men, women and thildren to bits.

  205. Terry TibandoOctober 4, 2014 at 12:32 pm #

    I do not support or approve of Harper’s combat mission in Iraq! This man is a serious danger to our own country with his continued support of US lead foriegn policies and agendas which potentially threatened the peace and security of the planet.
    If you haven’t yet figured out by now that a our current prime minister and most past Conservative prime ministers of this country have been bought and paid for as agents of the US Republican Party then, you have been living in a dark cave of ignorance and need to come out into the light of reality and truth.
    It time to get rid of this dangerous man who currently holds the office of Prime Minister as he does not have the best interests of Canada or Canadians at heart!!!

    • Evelyn RebmanOctober 4, 2014 at 12:45 pm #

      Definitely not. We will be still trying to play the war games a long way down the road.

      Will we ever learn that it takes much more than killing to solve , what we have done to ourselves.? In my lifetime (89 years old) we have been continually in a war somewhere in the world. Never solved the underlying problems, so what makes us think that bombing innocent civilians, that it will happen this time. ?

  206. Giles BluntOctober 4, 2014 at 12:32 pm #

    No. Harper is against everything that made this country a place to be proud of–peacemaking, democracy, and diplomacy, to name three. Let’s not forget that the ISIS situation is a direct result of Bush’s invasion of Iraq, which Harper wanted to support. Who are the Canadians who asked him to indiscriminately bomb other countries? And if he cares so much, why has he shamefully limited the number of Syrian refugees?

  207. Bernice SteeleOctober 4, 2014 at 12:29 pm #

    No, I do not agree with Harper’s combat mission in Iraq. In the 21st Century surely diplomacy must the way forward for countries to respond to situations. If we can afford CF18 bombers, then we can well afford to send more humanitarian aid. Thanks.

  208. Margaret Martin-WoodOctober 4, 2014 at 12:27 pm #

    One of my proudest moments as a Canadian was when Jean Chretien said “NO” to George Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld.
    Harper has always resented this decision, and this is his chance to Play in the big boys sand box. He is like a spoiled child. He likes revenge and getting his own way.
    The Middle East is in shambles largely due to the west’s wars. We could have supplied aid and education but instead we have spawned a whole generation of hate filled young men. As we see now.

  209. Sue StroudOctober 4, 2014 at 12:23 pm #

    no No NO! This will only escalate, too many women and children and other non-combatants will die. People don’t want war only governments do. Our military folk will be killed and injured and left to rot when they come home by a government that doesn’t get them the medical attention they need, that fails to house them and look after their families and that steals their pensions! Harper is seeking only self-glorification. He is greedy, selfish, uncaring and psychopathic. I do not and will never support a vote for war. My credentials? Armed Forces brat, father was a peacekeeper in 1963/64 in Egypt and a base comptroller. I was chair of the Greater Victoria Disarmament Group throughout the 80s. There is no excuse for war. Ever.

  210. Theresa NagleOctober 4, 2014 at 12:22 pm #

    I am very much apposed to the war. it isn’t an answer. It will only cause more retaliation.

  211. mary aitkenOctober 4, 2014 at 12:22 pm #

    Absolutely not. Canada once had a great reputation as a peace maker and as a provider of humanitarian aid. Refugees from the Syrian conflict number in the millions and we have done nothing. There are a huge no. of conflicting and conflicted groups in both Iraq and Syria. We may be able to help refugees and homeless, but we are just as liable to bomb civilians as combatants whatever their names are and wherever they are residing. I vote for no troops, no planes and aid and shelter equipment for those displaced by war. Their numbers. are legion. If we are sending almost 700 more people let them be to help, not to kill.

  212. Jeff HanksOctober 4, 2014 at 12:20 pm #

    I support the opposition MP’s voting not to go to war.

  213. Doug DarlingtonOctober 4, 2014 at 12:19 pm #

    The beheadings are theater so we’ll support the bombings which are about money in the war makers pockets. The bombers can’t tell the difference between and a kindergarden teacher and a jihadi. Fear rains supreme on the ground. Poor bastards!

  214. Myron KremkoOctober 4, 2014 at 12:18 pm #

    It is fortunate for the world that Mr. Harper does not hold a position more powerful than that .of Prime Minister of Canada. Otherwise mankind would be extinct. He has shown us that as soon as he has a disagreement with a nation he closess our embassy thus losing sny contact of value with that country and has to rely on other nations for any discourse. Canadian citizens and potentisl immigrants are then forced to communicate with our embassies not yet closed down in a country closest to thr nation in which they reside. They may be in a war torn country, forced to wait about rwo years for admission to Canada for lack of an embassy in that country. Other nations, such as the USA evacuate their citizens and potential immigrants in a matter of days in similar situations

  215. LINDSAY GIRARDOctober 4, 2014 at 12:13 pm #

    NO…STAY OUT OF IT….IT IS NOT OUR WAR….WE HAVE OUR OWN AFFAIRS HERE TO DEAL WITH

  216. Jack RosenOctober 4, 2014 at 12:13 pm #

    No, we can do such much more with humanitarian aid, helping refugees and providing food and homes for those displaced. No bombs, no fighter jets this is just adding to the problem and not the way to solve issues in this region. It just breeds more hatred; we need to go in and help the those that have been hurt injured, providing medical care, helping to provide education to those in refugee camps… this list is endless and can go on. No No No to more airstrikes!

  217. Anne StreeterOctober 4, 2014 at 12:13 pm #

    No I don’t support Mr.Harper – never have, never will and definitely not on this issue! The West’s military involved in the Middle East has only made matters worse – we have destroyed innocent lives and countries – and stirred up a hornet’s nest in the process. Canada has always been a peace keeper. Under Harper we have become a target. Time for Mr. Harper to step down!

  218. Renie Mc CallumOctober 4, 2014 at 12:12 pm #

    We should stay out of this whole mess!! It was caused by Bush and Cheney’s war against Saddam Hussein!! That country is infinitely worse off now than under Saddam!! WE SHOULD STAY OUT OF THIS MESS!!!!

  219. Joseph1946October 4, 2014 at 12:12 pm #

    Western violence against Middle Eastern societies – all for the sake of taking their oil – only invites retaliatory violence. ISIS – we should not even give them a name such as that, they are only a gang of psychopathic murderers that in any other situation would be locked up for life – will only benefit from their martyrs by attracting even more disaffected murderers from around the globe. Better they be rounded up and tried for crimes than that they should be slaughtered. They are all too willing to be slaughtered. It makes them stronger. As the United States should have learned from their fiasco in Viet Nam, you can bomb people into submission but not into collaboration, let alone alliance. War, in this way, is ALWAYS counter-productive. Kindness and humanitarian aid, however, if it is freely given with no ulterior motive, is for the most part rewarded with respect and even liking. Better for Canada to revert back to our values than to join the barbarism of the Western corporate society.

  220. Barry PaskOctober 4, 2014 at 12:09 pm #

    No. For the cost of military intervention, Canada can instead contribute much more effectively to the cause by spending the money on refugee aid, as a for-instance. And that sort of aid will get us – and hence the west – much more positive PR than bombing them ever will. Leave that to others who have better capability for it, if it must be done.

  221. Robert NelderOctober 4, 2014 at 12:09 pm #

    Humanitarian aid is necessary not more bombs.

  222. Shiva PashupatiOctober 4, 2014 at 12:09 pm #

    I am in total disagreement to send troops, planes and materials to wage a war that Canada has no direct or indirect connection to. There is no reason to go, there is no plan, there is no exit strategy. We are only witnessing yet another blind submission to our war-mongering Southern neighbor. There are plenty of other, more productive, uses for taxpayers money in this country. It is grand time we vote the conservatives out of office.

  223. Anne MorrisOctober 4, 2014 at 12:04 pm #

    Canada should follow Norway’s example and focus on delivering humanitarian aid. Bombing will result in the killing of innocent civilians, and will not, by itself, destroy ISIS.

  224. james routledgeOctober 4, 2014 at 12:03 pm #

    Not in my name. Canada should be focusing on humanitarian initiatives that help those effected by the IS. We don’t have the military resources to get into this fight. Our armed forces are underfunded and worn out from Afghanistan.

    Our effort in Afghanistan had questionable objectives and look what happened there. This time we don’t even know what the objectives are.

  225. Anne SchmitzOctober 4, 2014 at 12:03 pm #

    Once again, propaganda plus fear mongering adds us into war. The people in the middle east have their own propaganda and fear. Arms manufacturers are the only ones who profit.

  226. Eli PivnickOctober 4, 2014 at 12:02 pm #

    You cannot bomb a country into peace. Inevitably more innocent people than combattants will die and their lives disrupted. And more hatred for the west will be the main result. Bombing is great for the arms industry and little else. The Aesop’s fable of the Sun and the Wind is the perfect parable for the folly of this campaign.

  227. MarkOctober 4, 2014 at 12:02 pm #

    If there’s one thing we should have learned from the last 100 years of our adventures on this earth, it is that violence (war) is a very poor tool in our search for peace and coexistence. Why we keep being seduced by this most unproductive and destructive choice for handling our problems is surely one of the great mysteries of our species!
    Let us finally show some wisdom, acknowledge what we all inherently know, and stop doing more of the same thing. Violence only begets more violence, and leaves a wake of misery, despair, and rage.

  228. Harold FunkOctober 4, 2014 at 12:02 pm #

    No I do not support this motion. We are the terrorists. Get out of Iraq.

  229. Henry Evans-TenbinrkeOctober 4, 2014 at 12:01 pm #

    I do not support Harpers position claims that there is not enough money in the coffers to deal with things that are of utmost importance to Canadians such as education , health care and poverty, yet he is able to find the funds to drag Canada into a war that will cost us billions of dollars???

  230. Bob RussellOctober 4, 2014 at 12:01 pm #

    This is not being done in my name.

  231. Irene VautourOctober 4, 2014 at 12:00 pm #

    Harper, our “Great Leader” is a psychopath. No regard for people’s lives, not even Canadians. Too bad we don’t have an impeachment process.

  232. Jean LeahyOctober 4, 2014 at 12:00 pm #

    No I do not approve-Why not Nato,? would feel more secure if NATO was managing

  233. Peter HobdayOctober 4, 2014 at 11:57 am #

    We have no exit plan from this quagmire – nor do we seem to have an objective since the PM has said ISIL cannot be defeated.

    We’ve already lost 158 young Canadian men and women in this doomed mission. That’s enough Steve.

  234. Irene VautourOctober 4, 2014 at 11:56 am #

    Harper is not doing the will of Canadians. He’s not even including us in the equation. This man must be stopped. I wish we had an impeachment process for our “Great Leader”. The man is really beyond reason.

  235. Kyle FriskenOctober 4, 2014 at 11:55 am #

    No. War will inevitably create more hatred towards the west. Have Harper and Obama not learned anything from the military action against iraq and afghanistan in recent history. These countries are still in shambles. Sending in fighter jets will kill innocent families. War is never about “saving” people as our supposed leaders have us believe but always about economic gain. Harper is not my leader and I will rarely support war. You can’t bomb a country to peace.

  236. BruceOctober 4, 2014 at 11:54 am #

    Like Monsanto creating super weeds, all the supposed war on terror has done is create super terrorists. The huge differences between Sunni and Shia goes back through the ages it’s their fight let them duke it out and keep all intruders out of the region.

  237. Helen ReadyOctober 4, 2014 at 11:50 am #

    Elizabeth May a;so speaks for me.

  238. Alice ThomsonOctober 4, 2014 at 11:49 am #

    NO, he has not talked to anyone else on this matter, He might be the PM but all the parties need to have their say, for OUR greater security, Personally I think he is trying to measure up to the big boys, and hasn’t got it yet, Canada is a peace keeping country, not a war maker :/ We can deliver aid to whoever needs it, and have done so for years, We can never match the US war machine and personally I am glad we can’t, further more he isn’t smiling at us on TV or in public, he is smirking at us, as he can almost do what he wants with all his sheep backing him up :/ I would like to see a rule that says IF the PM gets too big for his britches, there is a law to send him packing. Terrible day for peace and OUR Canada

  239. anita gOctober 4, 2014 at 11:47 am #

    did we learn nothing from the invasion of iraq in 2003? the lesson should be – don’t follow America blindly into another mess they helped create…as much as i abhor the murder of innocent people, will this not only inflame the situation further, broaden potentially beyond iraq and syria?

  240. Jessica DuncanOctober 4, 2014 at 11:43 am #

    Been there, done that, got the body count. While I understand that there are threats of terrorism lurking out there, and we cannot sit back and watch entire cultures being subjected to the inhumane horrors inflicted by mad zealots, at no point has going in with blazing guns proven effective. If anything, it makes matters worse. We are supposedly an evolved species. We should be able to come up with more clever and peaceful means to end tyranny.

  241. Lawrence UhlinOctober 4, 2014 at 11:42 am #

    Einstein, a long time ago defined stupidity – doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome.
    When do we learn? Internationally, our job might yeild better results if we concentrate on diplomacy and safety. Be in Iraq and the mideast for support of refugees and the horrible outrageous collateral damage to innocent people and at the same time support efforts to have Muslims organize to supress the dangerous extremists in their midst. Having big-brother countries from afar come in for rescue operations that only exacerbate the problems is a dangerous and wrong approach to the problem.
    Let’s intensify our efforts to get rid of ‘an eye for an eye’ and ‘fight fire withfire’ beliefs and start thinking critically about humanity. There are mis-guided, dangerous people in every society, extremists in every culture but I don’t believe they outnumber rational thinking people and groups – let’s use the weight of rational approaches instead of jumping and joining on the road to violence and killing innocent individuals in the name of ‘collateral damage’.

  242. Gary ToopOctober 4, 2014 at 11:41 am #

    No – I don’t support bombing ISIS. There’s no evidence that it will annihilate them, and it may not even slow them down.

    I’m against raining down death on anyone without clear evidence that:
    1) doing so will save more lives than it ends,
    and 2) that it is the _only_ way of saving those lives.
    (That isn’t pacifism – it’s just ethics 101 – and common sense.)

    Until we’ve had a meaningful parliamentary debate that convinces me of 1 and 2, I can’t support the bombing mission.

  243. Callie RoangOctober 4, 2014 at 11:39 am #

    The key question is who are we as a country, what do we want to be known for and what do we want to stand for as a vision for our country? When ordinary Canadians decide this for the government and give them the marching orders then we will have a government with a strong mandate that guides our actions on the world stage. Currently individuals not a collective consciousness are running this country, this is an unstable situation in times when right thoughts words and actions are required.

    I do not support any government action that is war oriented, I do support actions that support peacekeeping. Canada has a long standing history of being known for peacekeeping and respected for this. Traveling abroad has afforded Canadians a welcome by almost all countries in the world, this is an enviable and not trivial point. We have to set out standards high, keep more of an observers role so that there is the ability to come in neutral to offer the role of mediators, this Canada has been good at and needs to focus on as our core value and offering as a country. Just like corporations have visions, core values, core products and services this similar approach needs to be decided by the people of Canada as marching orders for the government. Right now we have a government making decisions that have long term affects to our integrity as a country and our independence.

    Currently Harper has the government marching to his orders and now pressured by the USA who is a country of broken values and plain broke financially so they need others to fight the wars they originally fostered. Let the legacy of the Bush era be cleaned up by the USA and Canada be as was our stand in the last Iraq war to not get involved.

    Canada needs to take the higher road, wars have proven to not solve anything have we not learned anything from the past! Let Canada be the brokers of peace!

  244. Karin MacCarthyOctober 4, 2014 at 11:38 am #

    Don’t kid yourselves, it’s not to liberate, but to secure oil. Why is there not so much as a peep from Israel, with it’s military strength fourth largest in the world?

  245. nick kosonicOctober 4, 2014 at 11:37 am #

    Clearly my Sister Nadia exemplifies the misinformed of the World regarding who ISIL is and the real reason they have been deployed where they are,,,the corrupt contollers of the West have bought and paid these mercenaries to the tune of 200,000.00 each for the first year and 300,000.00 for re-enlisting with the expressed intention of destabilizing that part of the world in order to topple the governments and install puppet regimes. It’s a clear as day and as transparent as glass,,,,it has been manipulated in the mainstream (totally controlled) to appear otherwise. Cut off the flow of money and these idiots will go home!!

  246. Jean RajotteOctober 4, 2014 at 11:37 am #

    Absolutely not! It is illogical that geo-politically savvy professional politicians and militaries would promote more of the same violence that has been dished out over decades against this region of the world by western powers, and expect different results than what we have now, namely more vengeful violent responses and sectarianism. Therefore there must be ulterior motives for these aggressive decisions. They might be interest in resources; making, selling, destroying, and making more weapons; mongering world-wide fear to promote Fascistic systems by making sure there are always enemies who hate us, supposedly more than we hate them; probably all of the above and some other reasons I cannot fathom. History tells us leaders *always* lie and lie to promote warfare frenzy — how could this be any different? Violence is never the answer, no matter what the question is.

  247. Julie PeressiniOctober 4, 2014 at 11:36 am #

    A big fat NO!

  248. G. McElroyOctober 4, 2014 at 11:34 am #

    NO! NO! NO!
    Harper’s war not the war of Canadians!!!

  249. Alan HedleyOctober 4, 2014 at 11:32 am #

    Read the article on “Bombs Away!” (see the link above) and you will see why I am opposed to yet another bombing mission that in the end will only kill, maim, and disrupt the lives of innocent, ordinary people who are simply trying to live their lives like the rest of us.

  250. AliceOctober 4, 2014 at 11:30 am #

    Elizabeth May spoke my mind. And I value the contributions of both the NDP and the Liberals – shifting the focus from fighting and bombing to supporting those “collateral damages” in need of our help.

  251. DOUG McLELLANOctober 4, 2014 at 11:29 am #

    HELL NO!

  252. Nadia AlexanOctober 4, 2014 at 11:27 am #

    This time, I do not agree with the pacifists at all costs. Diplomacy will not work with the psychopaths called Islamic State. They are barbarian savages whose only language is violence. Even the Nazis tried to hide their atrocities instead of publicizing them without shame. The only way to save the minorities in the region from their terrorism and brutality is by annihilating them. There should be a permanent force made up of all nations, under the auspices of the United Nations, always ready to relieve citizens in any part of the world from such untold atrocities. The perpetrators should also be sent to the International Court in the Hague to receive their due punishment. Such international condemnation might act as a deterrent to would-be dictators.

  253. Janet HudginsOctober 4, 2014 at 11:27 am #

    Canada is not in the business of war. Although the prime minister is clearly having the time of his life making his legacy like GW Bush, we have never gone to war except at the behest of other countries. And not willingly. Harper took this on on his own. He’s welcome to go to the Middle East and fight himself. Baird say we can’t do nothing meaning we have to go to war. He’s wrong. We can do countless other things we would be happy to do like providing supplies for the victims.

  254. Oli CosgroveOctober 4, 2014 at 11:25 am #

    I most certainly do not approve. Have we learned nothing from the Bush-Cheney fiasco in Iraq, the cause of the current situation, and from Afghanistan? The more
    we war with the so-called terrorists, the more we will antagonize them and the stronger they will grow. Bombing and killing civilians is just as barbaric as beheading: the result is the same. Are we too stupid to try to understand the Arab
    cultures and dialogue with them instead of behaving like buffoons? War never
    solved anything and only caused more war.

  255. Jean McLarenOctober 4, 2014 at 11:23 am #

    No I definitely DO NOT approve of anything Harper does. there is a song “When will we ever learn???” . I cant believe that they want to go into Iraq again. It will only cause more harm to young people who go from here and the innocent ones that get bombed. I have been acting against war for more than 65 years and still feel that one day all will be ok. But not if we listen to Harper and the US.

  256. Jan JonssonOctober 4, 2014 at 11:23 am #

    I do not support the government motion to go to war in Iraq. Humanitarian assistance is an area in which Canada can be useful, maybe, but the root causes of the susceptibility of people to be recruited into a military and social movement for a radical Islamic state need to be addressed. Canada could play a role in helping to eliminate poverty and alienation, rather than contributing to the destruction of lives and becoming an enemy of poor and alienated people.

  257. MarjorieOctober 4, 2014 at 11:23 am #

    I do not support our current government in their decision to take military action against any other humans wherever they are in the world. I prefer to be a peace monger not a war monger.

  258. Jeannie KaminsOctober 4, 2014 at 11:18 am #

    No. Tell the psychopath to use his words. Not his fists.

  259. Naseem JanmohamedOctober 4, 2014 at 11:17 am #

    None of the military interventions in the area since 9/11 have left the affected countries in a better state. Why are we doing it yet again??

  260. David NicholsonOctober 4, 2014 at 11:16 am #

    As Robert Fowler says in Globe and Mail (Oct 4 2014), we are playing into ISIS’ hands.
    We need to choke off what sustains them, rather than drop bombs on where we think they are.

  261. edgeOctober 4, 2014 at 11:15 am #

    Western lead mission to this reagon have consistently led to greater instability and a rise in terrorism. None of this would be happening if it wasn’t for past western policy, starting with the carving up of the region thorugh the U.S. backed installing of Saddam Hussein, the U.S. back Iran / Iraq war through the the second – illegal – Iraq war.

    More war leads to more war, more killing and the destruction of more patrimony and enviromental resources.

    Furthermore, this war has NOT been approved by the U.N. and is NOT a war of self defense, and is there-fore illegal.

  262. JenMOctober 4, 2014 at 11:12 am #

    I’m afraid I may have misunderstood the question and voted “yes” when I so obviously meant “No.” Of course I don’t aprove of Harper’s plans to bomb and explode our entire world, he has no one’s best intrests at heart. Hr’s solely motivated by his own greed!

  263. Diana van EykOctober 4, 2014 at 11:11 am #

    no, I don’t. bombing this area is what created this mess in the first place, and diplomacy is what’s needed now, not bombs.

    • alice mackeyOctober 4, 2014 at 11:15 am #

      No I don´t approve, bombing is violence y violence only breathes more violence.

  264. Martina LauerOctober 4, 2014 at 11:09 am #

    The American war plans are the result of American ploys to get rid of Assad. New military strikes will destabilise Syria and Iraq further; not in our interest. our tax money needs to be invested here, not in weapons to destroy other societies.

    • John RabideauOctober 4, 2014 at 11:28 am #

      Today N.A.T.O. nations are Nationally Aligned Terrorist Organizations!

      I am celebrating my 72nd birthday today!

      I am profoundly opposed to what our governments and corporations are inflicting on the 99%.

  265. Dorothy ZazelenchukOctober 4, 2014 at 11:01 am #

    FIPA, this war, EVERYTHING Harper does is against the will of the people! He was fraudulently elected, disrespects our First Nations People, plunders the environment, is guilty of hate crimes, and STILL we are burdened with him! STOP this insane warmongering. If Harper wants to become a U.S. warmonger let him denounce his Canadian citizenship and move there!!

    • sharon lawrenceOctober 4, 2014 at 11:20 am #

      Canada should not hitch its wagon to the USA aggression in this world. If the Progressive Conservative gov’t cannot work toward preserving a sovereign Canada, then the least they could do is admit failure and let the Canadian populace enjoy an early election.

      • Patrick MaloneyOctober 4, 2014 at 1:24 pm #

        The Harper Conservatives are not ‘Progressive Conservatives’. When the old PC’s (McKay, Mulrooney, Clarke etc) amalgamated with Reform/Alliance( Manning) they changed the name first to Conservative Reform Alliance Party but realizing that calling themselves the CRAP was too close to the truth changed it to Conservative Party of Canada to disguise their agenda which is still to crap all over Canada.

        There ain’t ever gonna be anything remotely “Progressive” about these clowns

  266. Ingrid HellerOctober 4, 2014 at 10:42 am #

    I am no more proud Canadian, When travelling, I stay away from speaking English, as much as possible. Canada is identified with aggressive Israel and US – a real shame and so non canadian! If our leaders pledge legions to Israel (and their bankers), just like US politicians do, I distance myself from the corporation of Canada, the fascist by actions. Why should we bother voting? I ache in my heart for young generation. St. Harper has children! Is he more than insane? Who is his handler?

  267. Dennis ChoptianyOctober 4, 2014 at 10:41 am #

    In view of the beheading of innocent American and British nationals and the many atrocities committed by ISIS, it is difficult to remain passive and uninvolved. There is a natural and visceral desire to punish or destroy ISIS,- – as an act of revenge or to teach them a lesson. So bombs away!
    But is this the best and logical reaction?
    The answer is clearly NO!
    History has many examples to show that bombing will not provide a beneficial long-term result. While bombing will slow or momentarily halt an ISIS advance in Iraq, it will not provide a victory over that foe. Well-trained and motivated boots on the ground (primarily Iraqi and Kurdish boots) are needed to thwart the advances of ISIS.
    Harper has committed our soldiers to this battle for three reasons – namely, in order to satisfy a US request, to appease his political base and to inflate his image as a decisive leader. None of those reasons is sufficient to get involved in a combat roll with F-18′s and support personnel/material.
    Iraq has requested assistance, with training and weapons. That should have been Canada’s response.
    Bombing will have an impact for ISIS similar to the 9/11 attacks – namely to engage a sleeping element in Muslims and Arabs across the world.
    Perhaps that was the underlying reason for the beheadings. If so, ISIS has won this stage. Is this a sign of their future success?

    • Patrick MaloneyOctober 4, 2014 at 10:53 am #

      If the bombing can eliminate the sophisticated weaponry ISIS scooped up when the Iraqi military ran away it would level the playing field for more local “boots on the ground” . It is pretty evident that the locals are not “well-trained and motivated” and turning that around with Canadian advisers will take more time than they have. The bombing should also seriously damage ISIS sources of income in the oil fields and wherever.

  268. Cathy WintleOctober 4, 2014 at 10:35 am #

    Enough is enough! Harper and his ilk are recruiting for the radical Islamists.

  269. Denise RinguetteOctober 4, 2014 at 10:35 am #

    Please, give peace a chance !

  270. Patrick MaloneyOctober 4, 2014 at 10:32 am #

    I acknowledge being seriously conflicted by this but wackos who routinely decapitate innocent hostages are not ever going to sit down and talk to anyone.

    Mad dogs have to be euthanized.

    Arguably their existence is a direct result of western meddling in the region? So what then? Leave the locals to pay the consequences? Send aid but not muscle?

    I am as anti Harper as one can be, but we have skin in this game thanks to our Afghanistan mis-adventure. I don’t see how we can sit on the sidelines and let others do the heavy lifting

  271. Lillian GrantOctober 4, 2014 at 10:29 am #

    Apparently the Ipsos Reid poll showed that 66% of Canadians support Harper. If you look at the disclaimer of their polls you will see that they surveyed approximately 1250 Canadians. I notice that the poll was not shown on TV this time which tells me that the number of people polled was probably even less. Iposos Reid polls are so off the mark that they should not even be used. Do they poll the same Con supporters each time? Sadly, there are those that have to follow the herd and have no ability to think independently and those are the ones that will be fooled by the numbers and blindly follow. Even the bible calls them sheep. The whole thing is a scam to usher in the new world order and if we don’t take action and get Harper pulled from office and a full investigation done on his actions and his mental capacity to lead, then we are all doomed.

  272. H SpankoOctober 4, 2014 at 10:22 am #

    Harper is a bully & anti-democratic but he still goes through the farce of “getting parliament” to confirm his own decisions. His pack of trained seals will approve
    so what’s the point?

  273. Luong PhamOctober 4, 2014 at 10:22 am #

    Throwing money into something that only begets more violence and future generations filled with hatred towards us is not wise, not prudent and definitely not of the Canadian peaceful way that I know.

    On the practical side, why does this government think that Western bombing is the solution to solve the current Middle East problems?! Have they gone mad?

    No, I do not support military actions in Iraq.

  274. maurice shapiroOctober 4, 2014 at 10:20 am #

    I would prefer to see Canada return to its peace keeping agenda rather than support the violence of further warfare.

  275. Graeme MacQueenOctober 4, 2014 at 10:16 am #

    ISIS was a member of the anti-Syrian coalition supported by Saudi Arabia and, indirectly, the U.S. Atrocities by this coalition (and not just ISIS) are nothing new. Now the Anglo-American group, which Harper wants to join, is using ISIS as a pretext for direct intervention in the region. The real opponent, in my view, is not ISIS but the Syrian government, after which Iran will be isolated. We absolutely must not support this fraudulent and illegal attack.

  276. G R GrahameOctober 4, 2014 at 10:12 am #

    I do not support going to war in Iraq.

  277. Mary Margaret ParentOctober 4, 2014 at 10:07 am #

    Violence only breeds more of the same. Why haven’t world leaders figured this out yet? We keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. As we all know, that’s insanity.

    • Diane DuttleOctober 4, 2014 at 11:07 am #

      I agree with E. May and writers Stemo, Whitworth, Hasket and Parent. The motion feeds the Harper propaganda that Canada is a warrior nation. I am so happy our opposition leaders have not been sucked into this empty jingoism.

  278. Robert HaskettOctober 4, 2014 at 10:01 am #

    After how previous U.S.-led military incursions into Iraq (and elsewhere) have turned out, it is hard to believe that the Harper government expects a more positive outcome this time.
    It is especially disturbing to think about the innocent ordinary people who will die or be maimed as a result of collateral damage due to Harper’s immoral decision.
    If Canada had a true democracy, for example some form of proportional representation, the Harper Conservative motion would be soundly defeated in Parliament.

  279. Jim WhitworthOctober 4, 2014 at 9:55 am #

    No! It is disgusting that Harper has signed up Canada for U.S. water boy duty in yet another war that has nothing to do with Canada. They have created this situation in the middle east by their murderous actions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc. etc.. Let them clean their own mess up and keep Canada and Canadians out of their endless wars for profit and supposed strategic gain. It also comes to mind that Canadians don’t need any more enemies and we will certainly be making some by killing people in foreign lands who have done us no harm. The terrorism in Ottawa must stop.

  280. Ken StemoOctober 4, 2014 at 9:52 am #

    I agree with Elizabeth May. History tells us that bombing Iraq is not the solution.

  281. Ron GetzOctober 4, 2014 at 9:50 am #

    The most stirring part of yesterday’s Parliamentary announcement was the responses of the opposition leaders. Messrs. Mulcair and Trudeau did us proud by clearly and passionately stating why their parties will not support the PM’s motion. Mr. Harper has not answered the important questions about this mission, and continues to beat the drums for a military solution to a problem that was created largely by the disastrous U. S. invasion of Iraq. Our “Christian” Prime Minister appears not to have read the verse that begins with “Blessed are the peacemakers…”

  282. Marten NicholsOctober 4, 2014 at 9:47 am #

    I would feel better if Harper led our troops in person. Otherwise do not send our Troops into Corporate Wars and to die for nothing. This war has nothing to do with our security or freedom.

  283. K FordOctober 4, 2014 at 9:47 am #

    I do not support Canadian military participation in Iraq.

  284. Nancy RavenHuntOctober 4, 2014 at 9:43 am #

    NO!!!!

  285. Faye SaxonOctober 4, 2014 at 9:41 am #

    I certainly DO NOT agree with HARPER’S War!

  286. Sandra CurrieOctober 4, 2014 at 9:39 am #

    A thousand times NO. We have become targets of terrorists by following the American imperialist foreign policy. It’s an ignorant idea, made by ignorant men.

  287. Michael MottOctober 4, 2014 at 9:38 am #

    I am saddened by the fact that our government wants to get Canadians into more brutal bombing of people half way round the planet. Bombing people from the air is a cowardly act of violence that will beget more violence!
    The continual rhetoric about the violence shown by “terrorists” in the middle east pales by comparison to the people maimed and broken by the destruction of homes and buildings where innocent people are living in fear of further attacks by people they have not done any harm to.
    Lets face it war is very profitable to the the elite who make the weponry, GE. Northrop Grumman, and all the rest of the warmongering companies making explosives, which incidentally contribute more to climate change than many other peaceful activities.

    Michael

  288. Mireille CoralOctober 4, 2014 at 9:38 am #

    Further bombing of Iraq, I think, will create a breeding ground for more anger, hatred, and violent retribution. I fear for a repeat of the attacks such as occurred on September 11. Iraq needs reparations to build a strong vibrant society once again.

  289. Mary MacEachernOctober 4, 2014 at 9:33 am #

    No, I do not approve of any motion to take military action in Iraq. I still want Canada to be a country of Peace leaders not war mongers.

  290. Jessica JohnstonOctober 4, 2014 at 9:32 am #

    No. Absolutely NOT. I think its the most disrespectful thing to get our Cndn Forces to do. Not only do they have to fight the Crime Minister for their support systems that they should have in place, they are forced to fight in a war that has no honour. Oh Canada? Oh uhoh No More Canada!

    • Marten NicholsOctober 4, 2014 at 9:49 am #

      yes

  291. Phyllis ReeveOctober 4, 2014 at 9:23 am #

    No. I do not support the government motion. Please let Canada be a calm, compassionate, humanitarian and diplomatic voice of reason.

  292. john speersOctober 4, 2014 at 9:22 am #

    It’s sad that the people have lost their voice in stopping Harper’s insanity. Our country has become part of a massive killing machine led by the U.S.and Europe. STOP THEM NOW.

  293. Steve FickOctober 4, 2014 at 9:12 am #

    Much of the horror happening in the Middle East is happening with training and weapons inherited or stolen from the countless Western interventions, and fueled by a rage over the hundreds of thousands civilians killed, injured, or made homeless by Western powers. Under the Harper government, Canada continues to shift more and more from supporting the things that prevent war–the alleviation of poverty, support for good governance, education, health, diplomacy–to fueling the endless cycle of violence the consumes an obscene portion of our national resources.
    .

  294. Judy FudgeOctober 4, 2014 at 9:07 am #

    Who exactly are they planning to bomb? Civilians will take the brunt of it, more insurgency will be created. Haven’t they learned anything from the past?

  295. Herb TitzeOctober 4, 2014 at 9:04 am #

    The Canadian Army Should defend our right to freedom in an equal democratic society; thats it and they are not slave soldiers for crumbling Empires

  296. Arleen McCallumOctober 4, 2014 at 9:02 am #

    Canada can support the effort without going into combat.

  297. Marilynn GilliesOctober 4, 2014 at 9:02 am #

    It is very difficult to see the terrible things that are happening but i am not sure that bombing which will kill civilians too is the answer.

  298. Ira RabinovitchOctober 4, 2014 at 9:02 am #

    I love our opposition parties!

  299. J.G.October 4, 2014 at 8:57 am #

    It is high time we stop following orders from USA military war mongers.

  300. Jarrett HolstOctober 4, 2014 at 8:54 am #

    I do not support Canada taking military action in Iraq.

  301. john keelerOctober 4, 2014 at 8:51 am #

    Will the world forever solve problems with more violence? Peacekeepers is our tradition.

  302. Susan Celeste VermetteOctober 4, 2014 at 8:45 am #

    I do not support Canada in taking military action in Iraq. I think Canada should be a Peace leader in the world.

  303. Sandra CowleyOctober 4, 2014 at 8:45 am #

    Ceasefire : We are our brothers’ keepers, whether they live next door or half a world away. If we were in the shoes of the survivors of the butchered innocents over there – they cut in half a five year old boy, son of a Christian Leader!!!, just one of thousands of horrific acts! – would we not pray, cry for deliverance from whomever is able to help? Are we not living in the best country in the world and do we not have a human obligation to ‘pay back’ to our world for our great good fortune? To do more than just shake our heads at the horrors and be happy it isn’t US, being tortured to death, slaughtered? For just being different from the evil ISIS? ISIS MUST be stopped as soon as is possible, before thousands more are tortured, murdered, forced to flee into misery in order to live. We are not an island in the cosmos. We are a blessed part of humanity, living in peace, relative prosperity, a democracy. Helping the refugees will not stop the slaughter. Stop the slaughter, and THEN, know that help for the refugees will not be vain, should the ISIS kill their way to even more territory/wins!

  304. Donald Robert DonaldsonOctober 4, 2014 at 8:40 am #

    When are we going to realize that our actions are causing more and more damage to the people in these countries we hinder not help. How many more children have to die before we try to solve the reasons for organizations like SISIS??

  305. RonMacDougallOctober 4, 2014 at 7:47 am #

    Still, no lessons have been learned. We continue to attack countries and side with one sectarian group against another, which only creates chaos and sets in motion the cycle of revenge and sparks new internal strife. So if slamming a hornets nests propels
    more hornets to start new nests, isn,t it time to rethink this militarization of our foreign policy? It only increases the violent chaos in that region with risk of a blow back affecting our country, such as a suicide bombers attacking heavily populated public spaces. This kind of attack is very hard to stop, as we have seen
    thousands of times overseas in Iraq and Afghanistan.

  306. Howard A. DoughtyOctober 4, 2014 at 7:47 am #

    Not a day goes by when Mr. Harper and his merry minions of mandacity fail to something stupid or something evil. On most days they do something that is both. This is one of those days.

  307. John KruithofOctober 4, 2014 at 7:45 am #

    Elizabeth May is very eloquent in opposing air strikes.
    http://elizabethmaymp.ca/military-action-iraq

  308. Michael CoppsOctober 4, 2014 at 7:33 am #

    We are arriving at the point where saying stop the madness will come from those that have gone mad from endless bomb attacks. ” Vengeance is Mine” sayeth the Lord.

  309. Louise GouefficOctober 4, 2014 at 7:24 am #

    Progress in reducing the solution of violence and war will be slow if we don’t change patriarchal language. Patriarchy had 11,000 years to create language in its own self-interest. In patriarchy’s language over 10,000 items of speech, names, symbols and concepts embed male bias in favor of power over others, wealth building for elite fathers, support for slavery and feudalistic types of control over the masses. We use this language everyday to this day. As long as we use this language laced with inequality, violence, greed and the philosophy of control over others the development of diplomacy and peace will be slow indeed.
    Change the language,
    change the attitudes,
    change the direction, and thereby, change the world.

  310. John MynottOctober 4, 2014 at 7:20 am #

    The USA is continuing to impose it’s will and hegemony on much of the world.
    Canada should not be a part of the terror coampaign lead by USA and Great Britain.
    Stay out of US agression.

  311. Ed GoertzenOctober 4, 2014 at 7:19 am #

    It is apparent that the purposes of the wars in the Middle East are solely for the purpose of destabilization. Who is on who’s suide matters little. ISIS – SISL is a CIA construct that has gone rogue. There is no shortage of people, only a shortage of people we love, and who love us

  312. Beryl ForgayOctober 4, 2014 at 7:11 am #

    Warmongering is a sin and bombing is always just the beginning. It inevitably leads to chaos for thousands of innocent people, (look now at all the refugee camps around the world). How can we, as Canadians hold up our heads when our war-woving Prime minister insists on our army starting such a cowardly exercise as the one-sided bombing of another country, no matter how wrong they seem?

  313. Lori HarperOctober 4, 2014 at 6:50 am #

    No war!

  314. DHalloranOctober 4, 2014 at 6:46 am #

    The VELOCITY of Money.
    If we step back, in time frame and world events, the elite have a goal of world conflict. Either in NYC, Iraq, Afganistan, Libyia, Ukraine….how many are False Flag events are for you to decide. But what else would the Industrial Military Complex do with all that money and expertise it covets. The populous are programmed by what I call- Threat TV, and Dumb TV and their lack of lack of Critical Thinking. Instead humanity is led by distraction

    War excellerates the Velocity of Money (tax dollars) and prospone the enevidible collapse of feit currencies. Leading Governments tax their citizens at the highest rate possible to spend on worthless wars Or to backstop environmental disaster like Lake Magantic.

    Bombs won’t solve anything and Harper and his gang know it.

    What comes next is Special Drawing Rights (SDR’s) or another way of saying World Currency.

  315. Peter SmithOctober 4, 2014 at 6:26 am #

    By beheading another westerner every week, ISIS is trying to goad the west into a response that will have the appearance of a western attack on Islam. Instead of dealing with this in an intelligent way, our gut response is to bomb them – exactly the response they are looking for. This will just add fuel to the flames and bring them back even stronger. We have learned nothing.

  316. Matthew TimmsOctober 4, 2014 at 6:05 am #

    I do not support Stephen Harper’s warmongering any more than I support the United States bombing their own creation, ISIS.

    This war is a lie.

    • Marion HarrisonOctober 4, 2014 at 6:22 am #

      Harper’s idea of sending Canadian troops and planes to war is all wrong. It is a political move for his personal reasons and is not right. I am opposed to Canadian involvement such as Harper is promoting.

  317. HartOctober 4, 2014 at 6:03 am #

    “To you who are ready for the truth, I say this: Love your enemies. Let them bring out the best in you, not the worst. When someone gives you a hard time, respond with the energies of prayer for that person. If someone slaps you in the face, stand there and take it. If someone grabs your shirt, giftwrap your best coat and make a present of it. If someone takes unfair advantage of you, use the occasion to practice the servant life. No more tit-for-tat stuff. Live generously.”

  318. Andrée MorinOctober 4, 2014 at 4:52 am #

    I am against all types of wars. This is not a XXI Century solution. Killing great number of people with bombs or drones is not less barbarian than killing a few with a knife.

    • Wendy StephensonOctober 4, 2014 at 6:01 am #

      No, Harper should not be leading Canada into another destructive, senseless war. Considering all the potential intelligence of human beings, I cannot believe we haven’t come up with nonviolent alternatives to resolving conflicts throughout the world. I very much object to Harper changing Canada’s role from an international peacekeeper to an extension of the US war machine. The US is not the governing body of the entire world. At the very least we should not support any initiative that is not approved by the UN. Harper is acting as if he can speak for all Canadians. He certainly can’t. Let Canada lead diplomatic negotiations on how to become a post-war planet. Let Canada become an international leader in converting military aggression money into humanitarian aid to help get rid of the injustices in the world that continue to lead to war.

  319. André LaurionOctober 4, 2014 at 4:46 am #

    I am a pacifist. I am against war. Following each attempt made by USA to reshape the Middle East is ignorant. The terrorists in the World is the American Empire and their allies. Yes, killing another human with a knife is barbarious, but much less than killing hundreds with drones.
    Daesh is a creation of USA. We should not participate in any war.

  320. John ScottOctober 4, 2014 at 4:08 am #

    I agree with this former American president

    • Dalton JantziOctober 4, 2014 at 5:45 am #

      I also agree with this former American President

  321. Priscilla JuddOctober 4, 2014 at 3:33 am #

    Bombs by F35s or bombs by drones: War is a Crime

  322. Priscilla JuddOctober 4, 2014 at 3:29 am #

    NO I don’t approve of PM Harper’s plan. War is killing, war is for oil and war is a crime.

  323. ColinOctober 4, 2014 at 2:48 am #

    I am embarrassed that Harper would line up with the consortium as an ally and protect the American interest in the 3500KM pipeline through the middle east. Bad enough we are killing our own with tar sands and flaming trains.

  324. DotOctober 4, 2014 at 2:44 am #

    Harper is riding on the coattails of the ‘merican war machine and does not represent Canadians as the Blue Berreted Peace Makers, we are and were to the world….

    SHAME ON HIM
    and US for putting that wannabe ‘merican in power.

  325. Elaine BurrowsOctober 4, 2014 at 2:36 am #

    Nothing is ever gained by War.

    • DotOctober 4, 2014 at 2:40 am #

      Not true…
      it is the biggest profit centre of the globe…with Pharmacy close on its heels….oh there is a whole lot of people who gain with war…SAD that Harper is making us the new ‘Bullet Valley’….selling 6 Billion $ of Armoured Personnel Carriers to the Saudis….for what purpose?…a fear of a ‘Saudi Spring’ overthrow?

  326. Yo Ma MaOctober 4, 2014 at 2:20 am #

    i don’t even approve of kim ill stevie’s combat mission in canuckistan :\

  327. JeanOctober 4, 2014 at 2:06 am #

    Harper is a warmonger and a treason and needs to be dealt with accordingly. Canada must not to go to war for the US warmonger Obomber from Kenya.
    To see where Canada will go as did the US the best blog is: Alex Jones’

    infowars.com

  328. Al DorkoOctober 4, 2014 at 1:58 am #

    Another,made up US war to protect the petro dollar. Stephen Harper is a facist fool.

  329. Grace IsaakOctober 4, 2014 at 1:55 am #

    You can bet your booties someone is making a pile of money from this insane conflict that will soon legally become a war. I wish people would knock off the nastiness about Islam and Muslims. This is not about religion. It is about power and profit. (Remember those brave Christian Crusaders!)

    Our Prime Minister seems to have forgotten that he was elected by fewer than half of Canadian voters. It would seem he thinks we anointed and crowned him.

  330. laurence gillOctober 4, 2014 at 1:39 am #

    because of what Justin Trudeau said I support the no side. I do not trust our PM and that is an awful thing to have to say.

    • Michel BoucherOctober 4, 2014 at 7:07 am #

      It’s the democratic thing to say.

  331. david coeOctober 4, 2014 at 1:27 am #

    it is wrong to send our warplanes into this made up fight, and besides looking for favour among the US hawks, we are but a drop in the bucket of insanity. stop our power mad crook!

  332. Terry LawrenceOctober 4, 2014 at 1:22 am #

    ISIS was created, funded, trained and armed by the US to attack Syria. It’s main function is to provide a back-door way of getting support for a US bombing campaign in Syria, ostensibly to defeat “terrorists”, but really serving as a foot in the door for the US and “allied” air forces to start a war which, like the “no fly” zone in Libya, will quickly morph into a full scale war aimed at overthrowing the Syrian government.

    We all know that when these wars are started by the US under one or another pretext they quickly become full scale wars with multiple goals: replace a local government with US puppets, grab control of the oil fields, replace the military equipment with US made weapons to ensure integration into the US military/industrial complex, and provide a domestic excuse for the US to spend a trillion dollars a year on “defence” (talk about Orwellian inversion of the truth).

    Canada has no business getting involved with or supporting in any way yet another US imperial grab for oil and control in the middle east.

  333. Gyula CsapoOctober 4, 2014 at 12:12 am #

    It is misguided to throw arms and ever more arms into this conflict. Canada should play a mediating role and a humanitarian one. Different people have very different mindsets and ways of thinking. By military responses, we just reinforce their mindset, and we degrade ourselves to no better than they are. Slowly but surely, ever since the Bin Laden attack, those people we like to call “terrorists” managed to seriously undermine our own civil rights, our own cherished values, individual freedom and our democracy. To engage in dialogue with such people is of course very, very difficult. Had we chosen that path even in the face of our own very justified outrage and in the wake of their obviously heinous crimes, we would be better off now, and would not be forced into combat missions. Some say it is hopeless to negotiate with people who are bent on beheading innocent Westerners. Maybe true. But we should ask ourselves: after all, whose military vehicles and boots appeared on the soil of whose country exactly? We want their oil, so we feel entitled to just go there and get it? Military action is no solution for the millions of problems plaguing the Middle East. If we consider ourselves creative and bright, let us find other solutions: solutions that does not smack of any intent of converting them to our value systems. Instead, we should compel them to peacefully co-exist with us. They would if we are not adamantly trying to overlook the root causes of their desperate activities. They are – with all their atrocious crimes – trying to defend something that we find obsolete, indefensible. If we only know the one word: “attack”, then we force them to try to “defend” even more fiercely. We ought to be wiser and not perpetuate this madness. We need to change ourselves, too, if we intend to change anything at all.

  334. M L StathersOctober 4, 2014 at 12:11 am #

    I clicked the “Yes” box, inferring that the opposition had made a MOTION AGAINST the government motion. Right? wrong?

    I definitely believe that the gov’t’s eagerness to enter the war will trigger the jihadists HERE IN CANADA to carry out the promise to do their grisley retaliation HERE.

    NO DO NOT JOIN IN THE WAR!!!

  335. Albert LiemOctober 4, 2014 at 12:11 am #

    Surely what Harper has proposed fits perfectly to the often quoted definition of insanity “doing the same thing, again and again, and expecting a different result THIS TIME”. Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention Pakistan , Somalia and Yemen are recent examples. And more generally, wars on terror, drugs ….

    One example of success, please , Prime Minister Harper?

  336. Allan SheppardOctober 4, 2014 at 12:09 am #

    Bombs do not end wars. They never have and never will. But they do kill innocent civilians and, in the process, create more terrorists than they can possibly eliminate. The situation today is a clear consequence of a century and more of meddling in the Middle East by primarily the U.S. and its Western allies. We are facing another hundred years of meddling, with the same or worse results inevitable. The relevant question is not Can we win? (We can’t.) It is Cui bono? (Who benefits?) Not us. Certainly not the people whom we self-righteously presume to protect (from the present consequences of our long-term misadventures.)

  337. Elizabeth WoodworthOctober 4, 2014 at 12:04 am #

    I am 100% opposed to Canada invading Iraq.

    ISIS is just more of the same trumped up excuse to go into the oil-rich Middle East. Have a look at what General Wesley Clark said right after 9/11, about the 7 countries that would be invaded over the coming years. And they have been invaded, on “humanitarian grounds,” (as Africa never would be): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw

  338. Diane WhalenOctober 4, 2014 at 12:01 am #

    Of course I don’t .I have always thought of Canada as a peacemaking country.
    Apparently I am wrong. I don’t believe in war.I am heart broken that Harper has taken this perspective on a global level.Considering a true majority of the Canadian people didn’t even vote him in. This world we live in needs to make a paradigm shift into how we are all going to live on this planet together.I repeat it just breaks my heart.

  339. Allan WinksOctober 3, 2014 at 11:45 pm #

    Madness.
    The Prime Minister sees this conflict through a very narrow religious idealogical lens. His response is totally inappropriate.

  340. Phil ViaudOctober 3, 2014 at 11:31 pm #

    To think that bombing will help to solve the problems of the area is an oversimplification. Bombing is actually a good way to further radicalize the region. We need to help provide positive alternatives to the existing power structure. Military intervention is the wrong path for Canada to take.

  341. Vera HancockOctober 3, 2014 at 11:27 pm #

    This will backfire as sure as it has and will on the US, in a way that will make 911 look like a walk in the park. I still wonder about the truths of this catastrophic event that took place on that dreadful day, who is really the driving force here? Obama is in the drivers seat and has ultimately crippled the US in every sense of the word, I do not trust this man for one minute. So by convincing Stephen Harper to drag Canada into this senseless war, which is a part of his plan to have an Islamic State, terrorists controlling the world. I truly believe Obama is affiliated with this group, he is aware there will be no chance he will be re-elected, therefore his goal for power lies within ISIS. If Mr. Harper does not already see the mess the people of the US have been reduced to, mainly the middle class, he is brain dead. This being led by the very man that has manipulated Canada through Stephen Harper to join in another senseless war. Mark my words as soon as Canada attacks the repercussions will be immediate and immanent. Considering the number of Muslims here, we have been threatened by the terrorists that they are already in place in Canada, and will be given direction to attack. Just one city in Canada alone there are 35,000 Muslims, are they all extremists let’s pray they are not. God be with us all.

    • Shelora FitzgeraldOctober 4, 2014 at 12:00 am #

      Unfortunately, your fear of Muslims seems to have distorted your perception of who Obama is. He is doing his best to try to clean up the mess that GEORGE BUSH got him into. He is not a Muslim, and I am embarrassed to read the words of a Canadian who is so brainwashed that she blames Obama for the mess that the US made in Iraq, which he inherited from his trigger happy predecessor, who inherited it from his trigger happy father! This started in 1990 in the FIRST Gulf War in Kuwait. As was true then, and even more true now, sending even MORE bombs into Iraq will merely make matters worse. How do you stop the insanity, then? Empower those who stand for reason, in a country that has literally lost its head! What have we done when the only way that human beings can get their message across is to revert to the most brutal of demonstrations of powerlessness, in the name of God! Instead, let us return to the days of Lester Pearson, when Canada was known as the world’s peacekeeper. The way to peace has never been through war. So let us send financial and medical support, but please let us not go to war again! This is the time for World Government intervention. Humanity’s moral compass has gone askew. We have only one choice to make. The rule of Love, or the rule of Fear. Either we continue the nightmare, or we choose to wake up and realize that humanity has been engaged in a very long, very bad dream, the dream that we are enemies, separate from one another, and that you are not my brother, you are my enemy. Propagating such a lie only guarantees a never ending, ever escalating cycle of war upon war.

  342. Frank L. ShowlerOctober 3, 2014 at 11:22 pm #

    Bombs can produce only death and destruction,they cannot solve problems.

    • Steve MahlerOctober 3, 2014 at 11:25 pm #

      No Do not even go there

  343. Allan MillardOctober 3, 2014 at 11:14 pm #

    Aside from Harper’s politics of fear and cynicism, there is not a single justification for involving Canada in Iraq, but there are many overwhelming reasons why we should stay out.
    1. As with Afghanistan, there is no Canadian interest to be served or threat to be thwarted.
    2. As with Afghanistan, we are on the side of a corrupt and divisive government.
    3. Attacking Iraquis is not pursuant to either the UN or NATO (although even if it were to be a NATO mission it would only serve to bring NATO into disrepute as a defensive alliance).
    4. We become allied with 18th Century despots in places like Saudi Arabia where hundreds of people are beheaded each year.
    5. There is no precedent in the world for “degrading” an ideological/fanatical force through force of arms, and escpecially rocket and bombs from the air.
    6. The imperial powers laid the groundwork for instability in West Asia after WWI, and the new imperial power (USA) made matters worse after WWII. Canada should stay out of the line of fire against the imperial powers.
    7. The invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan should have proved that invasions and military attacks will increase recruitment for attacks on “the West”. Watch out now for our “intelligence” services to come up with a home-grown plot, before the next election, to back up Harper’s cynical (de)ploy(ment).

  344. Barbara FalbyOctober 3, 2014 at 11:09 pm #

    At a time when we should be concentrating on reducing carbon emissions, Harper has committed Canada to increasing greenhouse gases exponentially, with his fondness for weaponry. The U.S. military is responsible for a huge amount of the gg emissions which are causing climate change. It is absolutely irresponsible and criminal for Harper to do the same, and I think he should be held accountable.

  345. SattarOctober 3, 2014 at 11:07 pm #

    ISIS is a creation of persecution and torture inflicted by the Shiaa in Iraq and Iran , they should deal with it ….. ISIS is opposing them and all who are allied with them and killing anyone coming in between….. if you wanted to eradicate them , you’ll have to kill half the Sunnis, if not all , which is genocide

  346. helenOctober 3, 2014 at 11:07 pm #

    I want to see the Canadian Military wearing blue, as Peace Keepers. I support Canada sending humanitarian aid to Syria, but not ‘boots on the ground’ or aerial bombing. Canada needs to nurture its own; there is no reason any child in Canada should be impoverished. Harper needs to feed his own before spending funds on violence on the other side of the world.

    • janeOctober 4, 2014 at 12:16 am #

      thank you. I agree.

  347. Pete KingstonOctober 3, 2014 at 11:02 pm #

    We should not go war because of Bush’s blunder in foreign policy.More importantly Harper does not care about returning soldiers with mental and physical issues ,he won’t help.

  348. Jacob RempelOctober 3, 2014 at 10:58 pm #

    Dear Peggy Mason, at Ceasefire.ca —
    In response to your survey, I submit the following memo. I hope you agree with the premise that Canada’s deep integration with U.S. industry and commerce, not mention Canada’s mass media orientation, implicates Canada almost as much as the U.S.Regime.

    A serious campaign for widespread public support for peace and world well-being, like your campaign (campaigns@ceasefire.ca) and others must take into account this reality. Elected political people, all voters, and the general public need to understand this reality in order to influence our political leadership for real, permanent peace, and for recovery of sustainable industry.

    Thank you, Peggy Mason, for all the work you are doing for peace. —Jacob Rempel, Vancouver
    ________________________________

    MEMO
    To campaigns@ceasefire.ca
    We (Canada) are also at fault for these perpetual imperial wars across Yugoslavia and the Middle East and now in Africa. Canada, after all, did not definitively oppose the wars. All poliical parties were quiet or supportive. And we even gave diplomatic and some materiel support, not to mention that some of our industry supplied arms and machines for a profit.

    Canada cannot claim innocence. We are also responsible, more so because of the FTA, NAFTA, MAI, etc., which integrate capital investments and so many more of our corporations with imperialist U.S. corporations and their supportive imperialist U.S.Regime. I hope that the NDP, the Liberal Party, the Bloc, the Green Party, and Independents all recognize Canada’s share of responsibility for these wars. The United Nations, Canada and the rest of the governments in the world need to lead us all in our common human challenge to restore climate and environmetal balance around our planet.
    —JacobRempel,Vancouver.

  349. Amanda CarrOctober 3, 2014 at 10:54 pm #

    Canada should use our limited resources more wisely. I hope that our next Prime Minister can focus on international diplomacy more effectively.

  350. Christopher AssadOctober 3, 2014 at 10:51 pm #

    Canada does NOT** need

  351. John CurrieOctober 3, 2014 at 10:50 pm #

    I don’t support war in any way for any reason. The harper’s and Obama’s of the world should be made to fight and the rest of us should remain at home

  352. Christopher AssadOctober 3, 2014 at 10:49 pm #

    Canada has been supporting ISIL/ISIS, in all its re-incarnations as Islamist terrorists from the very start of the Syrian crisis. Our media has been hysterical in repeating falsehoods about the sovereign and legitimate Syrian government and its elected leader, President Assad (no relation). I consider our involvement in any war, whether under NATO’s umbrella or any other umbrella a misguided and harmful act. Canada does not militarization, our geography and demographics require Finland-ization of our defence and foreign policies.

  353. Paul r. MaasOctober 3, 2014 at 10:43 pm #

    What won’t this “warrior”, who likes to send other Canadians’ kids to be killed, do to suck up to the Americans?

  354. Holman GARAVITOOctober 3, 2014 at 10:39 pm #

    2014 Oct 3 London, Ontario
    I understand that the situation in the Middle East is very complex.
    But to start bombing a population where the great majority is inocent is absurd.
    The only way to deal with this is with very complexe Intelligence and special ground specialist. I oppose the Canadian Forces Deployment as we have no Intelligence on the subject.
    We can’t rely on second hand knowledge in particular from people that have lied in the past and were the instigator on the destruction of previous governments.
    The era of colonialism has ended.. All economic interests in the region should be left in the hands of the locals. We have no right to Steal and Enrich the Western Powers with the resources of another country.
    Sad prospects for the future, Holman Garavito

  355. Byron BonaOctober 3, 2014 at 10:38 pm #

    Mr. Harper has just handed Canada over to the Chinese and/or foreign investors for the benefit of our investors (not the Canadian people). Canada has handed over its judicial, environmental, and legislative control (or rather a treasonous Harper has; certainly hasn’t done due diligence on a no-win trade deal. And now, he wants Canadian soldiers to give up their lives after he has irritated ISIS and drawn their attention to us. And when the men return maimed in some way, he won’t provide help for them and might even get into a lawsuit with them to prevent doing his duty to them, which he says isn’t an obligation by the government. Sorry for the run-on, but Harper has run-on policies and omnibus bills.

  356. Don WilsonOctober 3, 2014 at 10:30 pm #

    Prime Minister Harper

    I do not support Canadian troops being sent to Iraq.
    I don’t support the demonization of an organization based on ignorance. Granted, ISIL seems to be responsible for abhorrent atrocities, but WHY??!! Before I can in any way countenance Cdn involvement in Iraq, I want to know WHY these people are behaving so. WHY??!! ISRAEL??!! Has the Muslim world just become fed up with the insipid treatment of the native Palestinians by the invading Jews and The West’s almost whole-hearted support of that brutality that a couple of fractions of a percent of Islam has gone crazy with hatred for us and are striking out as atrociously as they can imagine, given the simple and crude weapons that they possess, compare to what the US of A, Grt Brtn, France, a few Gulf countries… possess. ISIL has a spokesman, Abu Bakr al-Bagdadi. I want to know what words he uses to attract such a dedicated following, to recruit more and more young humans to his cause, and to raise such huge amounts of money. And from Who?! What is he saying that pulls some of our own kids out of our embrace and into a vicious, deadly fight in arguably the oldest most worn-out part of the world against an awesome enemy like the USA and its pals?

  357. Rob ThompsonOctober 3, 2014 at 10:27 pm #

    ISIL’s barbarism and propaganda may incite threats to global security, but having Canada participate in air-strikes may be a poor choice. We have to account for blowback and we have to identify ways to decrease its effects going forward. ISIL’s existence is at least in part the responsibility of Western aggression. The US invasion of Iraq and disbanding of the Iraqi army, 250,000 soldiers, created a power vacuum. The Shia puppet Al-Maliki alienated the Sunni tribes. Now ISIL fighters include members of the 250,000 disbanded Iraqi servicemen. One of Saddam Hussein’s former top brass is even one of the top leaders of ISIL. We need to ensure our actions address underlying factors that are aggravating these previously secular fighters to join a caliphate. Islamic extremism may be motivating a portion of ISIL fighters but many may simply be disenfranchised individuals. In addition to or instead of air-strikes, what other steps will Canada take?

  358. KrisOctober 3, 2014 at 10:20 pm #

    Oh for the days when Canada was revered for being a peace loving country. Now we have the reputation of being a loyal follower of the U.S.A. In his wisdom Harper now rushes to join the carnage in the Middle East.
    Why did we elect this petty miscreant? Hopefully we won’t err again.

  359. bruceOctober 3, 2014 at 10:18 pm #

    This is how the man who broke Canada wants to fix Iraq. How about we bomb Ottawa instead?

    • BobOctober 3, 2014 at 10:38 pm #

      That would be wrong. And as we know’ two wrongs do not make a right! Especially when we know that all these wars consist of trumper up situations to engage the gears of the war industry. Certainly by now we have found enough technology to do things in a better way to spark the economy without killing. How would we like it if that war was in our own back yard. Lets apply the Golden Rule here. “Do on- to others as you would have done on- to you”.

  360. Gerhard NeufeldOctober 3, 2014 at 10:10 pm #

    I strongly oppose that Canada get involved militarily in the Iraq conflict. This conflict can not be resolved militarily; its root causes must be addressed. Countries in the region must lead the opposition to ISIS. We should spend the money that we are willing to spend in a military confrontation on humanitarian assistance – not creating more victims.

  361. G. ThompsonOctober 3, 2014 at 10:07 pm #

    Elizabeth May’s words represent my views. We need Elizabeth to take a leading role in Parliament.
    Wise western leaders will meet with several Islamic groups to gain a complete picture of ways we can help people in the Middle East. Let’s do this consult now. We need to examine our past and present roles there – were/are our decisions wise? Let’s make long term commitments to help Islamic people meet their needs. Let’s consult with as many women as men. What are their needs due to prolonged drought, inadequate food, migrating populations and competing religious groups? What will it take to convince their leaders to step down from violence and work on creating a better life for citizens? When we find out what people need, let’s work with them to reach their goals. Go straight to reconciliation. Cut out the war.

  362. george farnsworthOctober 3, 2014 at 10:02 pm #

    War never leads to peace only to more war.Its useless.
    When will we learn?

  363. Ron CrowtherOctober 3, 2014 at 9:59 pm #

    Those poor people who live there have enough problems already without us bombing them out of existance. Let our troops help load food and necessities onto transports to deliver to the war areas instead. Maybe then they won’t hate us quite so much. One million dollar smart bomb buys a lot of food!

  364. Don WoodsideOctober 3, 2014 at 9:55 pm #

    War is always wrong, morally and practically. It bolsters dependence on violence, it fosters hatred, and it sets in motion uncontrolled consequences. Libya is a good example; as well as Iraq and Afghanistan. Bombing ISIL will not reduce the support it receives. We need to spend our energies on diplomacy and negotiation, and supporting non violent movements for human rights everywhere.

  365. HarvinderOctober 3, 2014 at 9:53 pm #

    This mission is stupid. It will only make matters worse. If Mr Harper wants to help, he can help by either getting people who are suffering to Canada or helping with money and medical aid in places like Turkey. But Mr Harper didn’t get the satisfaction of participating in the Iraq war. He wants to use this chance to get his thrills. We Canadians will pay dearly for Mr. Harper’s misadventures.

  366. Robert SancheOctober 3, 2014 at 9:49 pm #

    First, I found the survey question quite ambiguous–since there was the original government motion and the responses to the original motion on the table. Going to war is a total mistake. When will we earn the often repeated lesson that war promotes war and solves nothing! I am totally disappointed with the Conservative government and its lack of thoughtful leadership!

  367. pauline kenneallyOctober 3, 2014 at 9:46 pm #

    i certainly do not support any war anywhere. I was so happy when Prime Minister Jean Cretien refused to join the US in Iraq originally and now I think it is even more horrifying to even contemplate such action.

  368. Jeani JonesOctober 3, 2014 at 9:45 pm #

    Have we learned nothing yet! War begets war. Once again thousands of innocent people will die, be maimed and terrorized…tell me how this solves anything!

  369. Donna Thompson-McFaulOctober 3, 2014 at 9:40 pm #

    When will we start looking for solutions that don’t involve killing?
    We know in advance that most of the people who die will be civilians ,primarily women and children. Bombs do not discriminate.
    When will we ever learn? Too late if we continue on our present course.

  370. Dr. Paul McArthurOctober 3, 2014 at 9:37 pm #

    Good comments and I agree that the wording of the question is very poor. While I appreciate Elizabeth May’s speech and the fact that she voted against the North American Terrorist Organization’s bombing of Libya in 2011 (in the words of Michel Chossudovsky at the time – the Global War On Terror …Using Terrorists), I am nauseated by her appeal to the prime minister’s “good Intentions”. While it may be politically correct, I believe it is well past time that Canadians – despite their justified intolerance of beheadings – own up to the facts of “evil ” intentions (and unfathonably evil results) of Western backed overt and covert military interventions throughout the world.

    • Dr. Paul McArthurOctober 3, 2014 at 9:50 pm #

      sorry… North Atlantic…perhaps controlled in North America

  371. Lorne FriesenOctober 3, 2014 at 9:30 pm #

    We invest untold resources into violent responses to violence, thus perpetuating the cycle of violence. I would like to hear an objective answer to the idea that this current crisis is the consequence of the past wars. l am opposed to one more round of violence

  372. PETER STROTHEROctober 3, 2014 at 9:23 pm #

    We need other solutions than violence. Elizabeth May said it better than I could.

    http://elizabethmaymp.ca/military-action-iraq

  373. John Allan DonaldsonOctober 3, 2014 at 9:21 pm #

    Anyone who has followed events in the Middle East over the past decade knows that Harper’s clamour to join yet another US-led plan to confront a nebulous enemy by dropping bombs and firing missiles on areas where they are dispersed among civilians is militarily counter productive (as well as morally reprehensible). Might there be a sufficient number of truly progressive conservative members with the moral fortitude to rebel against their leader’s war mongering, and simply refrain from voting when the renewal-of-combat bill comes before Parliament on Monday? Less than a dozen should do it!

  374. Phil WatsonOctober 3, 2014 at 9:15 pm #

    Martin Luther King said, “I have a dream”.

    Obama says, “I have a drone”.

  375. Dan SchubartOctober 3, 2014 at 9:12 pm #

    Ever have wars been promoted either as a distraction from economic malfeasance or as a centre of profit for arms manufacturers and bankers, almost always through a failure of foresight and diplomacy, often willful. If we continue to go to war, we will all perish. Let’s take a different path.

  376. Rev. F. Mark Mealing, Ph.D.October 3, 2014 at 9:07 pm #

    First, we have no business poodling in the wake of the USA: the Bush viciousness in Iraq was an utterly illegal War of Aggression & it is wicked to support its latter form as criminal accomplices. Second, despite all the pious blather about Doing Our Part for Freedom & Democracy, the results in Afghanistan, Iraq & Libya are all about social destruction, death & ensuing chaos. Harper leads on a mad downward path & we must not follow.

  377. George (Jesra) MenziesOctober 3, 2014 at 9:06 pm #

    No. I would be, but not on their conditions, not their way, not their reasons. This is religion versus religion and religion versus anti religious homicide. …..and, as a matter of due course, oil.

  378. JonOctober 3, 2014 at 9:06 pm #

    Harper is simply an idiot.

  379. Joy TaylorOctober 3, 2014 at 9:00 pm #

    I always thought that the leaders who wanted war should lead the soldiers into battle like in the olden days. Sadly, of course, Stephen Harper couldn’t be in every plane that bombs. For a true decision of yes or no…maybe we should ask the vets from Afghanastan just how they are treated after the conflict is ended and they are back home. Especially the ones with PSTD Their vote would really carry weight.

    • John WarrenOctober 3, 2014 at 9:06 pm #

      Another Harper dream come true; another war for posterity. Harper will be remembered as Canada’s worst enemy.

  380. Horst KlausOctober 3, 2014 at 9:00 pm #

    Bombing the ISIS military equipment will only get them hostile towards Canada too and some poor Canadian will end up like the British and the Americans – decapitated!
    Turkey gave us a good example how to handle this, they could have lost some or all 45 ISIL Turkish ISIS hostages, had they jumped into allowing military action by NATO in their country. Their answer was not to get involved militarily and the Turkish hostages were all freed. How about now when Canada gets involved, we are putting Canadian journalists and others in danger! But Harper does not care about that , as he did not care what happened after Qaddafi was killed and a bunch of fanatics took over with Libya now ending up with two rival governments!

  381. David PikeOctober 3, 2014 at 9:00 pm #

    Peace will never come from bullets and bombs. You can see what good it has done to this point.Stop the killing,stop lying to the people, stop the cia mercenary armies from creating more war and taking Canada along for the ride.Stephen Harper should not represent Canada in such a depraved and repugnant way. Anyone sending weapons to killers is a madman.Sending troops when he won’t go himself ?He is a coward!

  382. Herman BoermaOctober 3, 2014 at 9:00 pm #

    Bombing ISIS will only kill more innocents and create more fanatics intent on revenge. Why would Canada want to be complicit in this insane and costly exercise?

    The most effective, nonviolent and cheapest way to stop ISIS in my opinion is to cut off their supply of money and weapons. Apparently, ISIS is receiving millions of dollars a day through the discounted sale of oil to agencies in Turkey. See:

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ar/business/2014/06/turkey-syria-isis-selling-smuggled-oil.html

    Who buys and sells this oil? Why does Turkey allow this to happen? Why does NATO allow Turkey, a member of NATO, to allow this to happen? This is a big volume business you can’t smuggle in a briefcase. It should be clearly visible to anyone who wants to see it.

    And which western armaments companies in which countries are profiting from this arms trade?

  383. Paul WinklerOctober 3, 2014 at 8:59 pm #

    Warmongering is wrong.

    When nations go to war, they must do so in the full knowledge of the enormous costs involved. This includes the high probability of many non-combatant casualties, the huge increase in refugees fleeing their homes in the war zone, the unlikelihood of effectively harming a clandestine enemy, the huge emotional impact on the forces members and their families, the astronomical to the taxpayer, and the destruction of whatever remains of Canada’s international reputation.

    This war is irresponsible and inappropriate. If we are forced to participate by this ideologically corrupt government, I will be looking for an anti-war political party to vote for in 2015.

    In this particular case, ISIS poses no threat whatsoever to Canada. If Canada does fall into ISIS’ sights, it will only be because of the inflammatory language used by the Harper Government.

  384. Lisa ThomlinsonOctober 3, 2014 at 8:56 pm #

    As much as I don’t like the idea of war, there does come a time to stand and be counted. And it’s kind of hard to turn the other cheek when you’ve been beheaded. Enough said.

    • Katharina NollaOctober 3, 2014 at 9:10 pm #

      Fighting “terrorism with counter-terrorism, is not contributing to peace and goodwill.
      I say “enough of this!” Spend the money on education, the healthcare system and the environment instead, which is rapidly being fazed out
      Katharina N

  385. Jim LewisOctober 3, 2014 at 8:54 pm #

    Yes, please fix the question! This is not our war. If ISIS or ISIL is such a threat to Middle Eastern countries, let them deal with it. Iran, Turkey and Saudi Arabia are more than capable of crushing the Caliphate wannabes.
    Let’s face it: Western incursions are not about saving poor women and children; they are about advancing the profits of the defence contractors. The cycle goes like this: a new terrorist organization is discovered, one so terrible that it makes the last one look like a bunch of boy scouts; the corporate media sell us the narrative, and the pundits and politicians are shoved in front of our faces to warn us that, unless we do something, we’re all going to die; we send our young men and women out to kill a bunch of Muslims, thereby creating anger among Muslim men; we declare victory; and when a new terrorist group is discovered, we start all over again.
    Oh yes, and I hate Stephen Harper with a passion.

    • James HunterOctober 3, 2014 at 9:52 pm #

      Jim,

      You hate him with a passion? We’re two then. Anyone else feels the same about Harper?
      If he wants to go tackle ISIS and friends he can go. If he wants to send our military and equipment, he has to tell the truth on the real objective, which is the removal of Bachar al-Assad. He must have forgotten that Russia has a naval base in Syria, in Tartus… Putin doesn’t like him very much already, and his S-300 super fast and effective missiles could do a job on our F-18s when push comes to shove…

      I suspect he’s trying to please Oblahblah so TransCanada’s Keystone XL pipeline will finally get the okay. The more Oblahblah waits, the more the harper uses his knees and subservience attitude to do his utmost to please the empire bosses… Harper should take as examples some of the revengeful acts, bombings namely, in France, in Britain… to reconsider. Anyway, IS is said to be the mercenary and frightening organization used by the US (financing, arming, but not bombing it) as a very barbarian and scary false flag tool to go back to Syria and take control of that other country, just like it did in Iraq and Libya for the oil control, and maybe Iran afterwards. It’s all part of the PNAC (Project for a New American Century), written in 1997. To achieve it Oblahblah has gone a far as keeping Putin busy near Ukraine, and the Chinese busy in Hong Kong…

      On top of that Harper’s also pushing his tar sand explosive goo mainly via an old pipeline through five provinces and on huge tankers sailing the Saint Lawrence River, where there are plenty of shoals, and high risks of grounding and spilling that poisonous goo. Over 3 million people use the Saint-Lawrence water for their daily needs, and thousands of fishermen make a living from the river. In order to remove any opposition to that pipeline and tanker transport project, he cut funds to all Canadian environmental research laboratories working on all biological aspects linked with our watercourses, including the various mammal species (belugas and other whale species), the fish, crustaceans and shellfish that are the livelihood of thousands of fishermen. Harper just doesn’t care about the environment. The oil industry must be paying big money for his next election. No wonder he changed the rule about the government financing political parties as per their number of ridings won. Now all parties have to organize funding campaigns, and Harper will have tons of oil money to his disposal… That’s democracy for the rich only, no matter the cost to the environment and the people living of it.

      • James HunterOctober 3, 2014 at 9:57 pm #

        Erratum: No wonder he changed the rule about the government financing political parties as per their number of votes received…

    • James HunterOctober 3, 2014 at 10:03 pm #

      Jim,

      You hate him with a passion? We’re two then. Anyone else feels the same about Harper?
      If he wants to go tackle ISIS and friends he can go all by himself. If he wants to send our military and equipment, he has to tell the truth on the real objective, which is the removal of Bachar al-Assad. He must have forgotten that Russia has a naval base in Syria, in Tartus… Putin doesn’t like him very much already, and his S-300 super fast and effective missiles could do a job on our F-18s when push comes to shove…

      I suspect he’s trying to please Oblahblah so TransCanada’s Keystone XL pipeline will finally get the okay. The more Oblahblah waits, the more the harper uses his knees and subservience attitude to do his utmost to please the empire bosses… Harper should take as examples some of the revengeful acts, bombings namely, in France, in Britain… to reconsider. Anyway, IS is said to be the mercenary and frightening organization used by the US (financing, arming, but not bombing it) as a very barbarian and scary false flag tool to go back to Syria and take control of that other country, just like it did in Iraq and Libya for the oil control, and maybe Iran afterwards. It’s all part of the PNAC (Project for a New American Century), written in 1997. To achieve it Oblahblah has gone a far as keeping Putin busy near Ukraine, and the Chinese busy in Hong Kong…

      On top of that Harper’s also pushing his tar sand explosive goo mainly via an old pipeline through five provinces and on huge tankers sailing the Saint Lawrence River, where there are plenty of shoals, and high risks of grounding and spilling that poisonous goo. Over 3 million people use the Saint-Lawrence water for their daily needs, and thousands of fishermen make a living from the river. In order to remove any opposition to that pipeline and tanker transport project, he cut funds to all Canadian environmental research laboratories working on all biological aspects linked with our watercourses, including the various mammal species (belugas and other whale species), the fish, crustaceans and shellfish that are the livelihood of thousands of fishermen. Harper just doesn’t care about the environment. The oil industry must be paying big money for his next election. No wonder he changed the rule about the government financing political parties as per their number of votes received. Now all parties have to organize funding campaigns, and Harper will have tons of oil money to his disposal… That’s democracy for the rich only, no matter the cost to the environment and the people living off it.

  386. Krista WellsOctober 3, 2014 at 8:51 pm #

    Okay, I voted yes the first time because I thought it meant I support the opposition voting against the actions of the Harper government. Then I realized that maybe the question was asking if I support the Harper motion to involve the military. So I voted again and voted no. This survey needs to be clarified. I. The wrong hands it could be made to look like the population is in favour of military action. BAD!

  387. peter evanchuckOctober 3, 2014 at 8:48 pm #

    Harper will keep my Canada unlike his Canada – he and his harpies will bully, betray, and demean this great country that was built on democracy not Harper’s tyranny.

  388. Pauli SommerOctober 3, 2014 at 8:45 pm #

    I can’t help thinking that adherents to militaristic solutions to problem solving in the world, at this point in human history, are psychopaths following ‘cult-like’ propagandists who are the profiteers of endless wars.

  389. FredOctober 3, 2014 at 8:44 pm #

    I don’t support any act of violence when no matter how pretty the wrapping. Is our government made up of uncle sam’s slaves?
    Most probably the logic is that if we kill a bunch of (so called) enemies we will end up with less enemies, therefore more friends. There-in lies the flaw.
    Who can see why it wont achieve our stated goals?

  390. Michael KursbattOctober 3, 2014 at 8:42 pm #

    “There is never any justification for violence. There is no justification for hatred. There is no justification for murder. Those who indulge in violence for whatever reason are themselves changed, and the purity of their purpose adulterated.”
    “If you do not like the state of your world, it is you yourselves that must change, individually and en masse. This is the only way that change will be effected.”
    “The responsibility for your life and your world is indeed yours. It has not been forced upon you by some outside agency. You form your own dreams and you form your own physical reality. The world is what you are. It is the physical materialization of the inner selves which you have formed.”
    “It is wrong to curse a flower and wrong to curse a man. It is wrong not to hold any man in honor, and it is wrong to ridicule any man. You must honor yourselves and see within yourselves the spirit of eternal validity. You must honor all other individuals, because within each is the spark of this validity. When you curse another, you curse yourselves, and the curse returns to you. When you are violent, the violence returns.”
    “I speak to you because yours is the opportunity to better world conditions and yours is the time. Do not fall into the old ways that will lead you precisely into the world that you fear. Seth — Quotation from ‘The Seth Material’ — Yale University Sterling Library Archives

  391. TeriOctober 3, 2014 at 8:41 pm #

    Who wrote this? The wording is really confusing!

  392. brydon gombayOctober 3, 2014 at 8:35 pm #

    I agree with whoever said this question was badly worded; I too almost made the same mistake.
    I wish I believed that the Harper government would pay attention to those of us who oppose this war – and war it is indeed when we drop bombs to kill innocent civilians. That too is barbarous.

  393. Ross WilsonOctober 3, 2014 at 8:35 pm #

    War, death and violence will not prevent religious fundamentalism. It only encourages it to continue.

    • judyOctober 3, 2014 at 8:38 pm #

      I agree.

  394. Kateri PinoOctober 3, 2014 at 8:34 pm #

    Shell out billions more of our tax dollars — at Obama’s (obomba’s) request, to bomb precisely those he and his fellows (Euros and Arabs- under U.S. prodding) cobbled together – from various countries – and armed in the first place. And who is to say these same folks are not continuing to supply ISIS (the former “moderate” opposition in Syria) with ever more potent arms at the same time as Harper earnestly sends bombers after them? Totally fed up with being drowned in lies.

  395. Sheila ZurbriggOctober 3, 2014 at 8:33 pm #

    Thanks to all for your unceasing ceasefire work and conversation. So crucial. So inspiring.

  396. Gaye-Frances AlexanderOctober 3, 2014 at 8:30 pm #

    Elizabeth May said it very well in Parliament today. Bombing has NEVER ended terrorism and never will!! WHEN will we EVER LEARN!!??

  397. Sharon EllisOctober 3, 2014 at 8:28 pm #

    Going to war with ISIL or ISIS is a counter-productive step.

    We cannot solve this problem by blowing it up. It won’t work. This penchant for blowing things up is what started ISIS in the first place. The beheading of western journalists and NGOs was meant to involve the US in the region; I am not sure that taking that bait is wise, especially since the US and Canada will be fighting American-made weapons in the hands of people with a religious mania and nothing to lose.

    Wars are generally a useless waste of resources….and this one is no different.

  398. MikeOctober 3, 2014 at 8:27 pm #

    I have no use for Harper and his conservatives primarily because I’m totally opposed to Northern Gateway and open net fish farms on our coast but……. my father spent a considerable time in northern Iraq (between the 2 wars) and developed a sincere love and appreciation for the Kurdish people. If someone doesn’t step in, ISIS will brutally and systematically wipe them out so…..who shall it be? Do we leave it all up to the USA (who would be the first in line to help us if we were threatened) or do we join with our allies and lend a helping hand to defeat these maniacs. Their behavior is so barbaric it simply can not be tolerated by civilized societies. Nobody in their right mind is in favor of war, so is there a peaceful way to stop these extremists from continuing the rape, be-headings and other unspeakable atrocities?

  399. William ReesOctober 3, 2014 at 8:24 pm #

    Your text with its question is poorly articulated and ambiguous. It states:

    “The government’s motion will be voted on by Parliamentarians on Monday to authorize the military combat mission for up to six months.

    All Opposition MPs have said they will oppose this motion.
    Do you support this motion?”

    I initially took the question to be asking whether I support the Opposition’s position (I do) because the question follows immediately after reference to the Opposition’s opposition. However, in strictly grammatical terms, you are asking whether I support Harper’s motion (I don’t). Unfortunately I voted “yes” recognizing only too late that “this motion” refers to Harper’s motion, not the Opposition’s — or does it?

    - See more at: http://www.ceasefire.ca/?p=19866#comments

    • David SteeleOctober 3, 2014 at 8:28 pm #

      I agree with Bill Rees. The wording of your question is dangerously ambiguous and likely to lead to results that cannot be reliably interpreted. I strongly suggest resending the poll with the wording carefully revised.

  400. George PayerleOctober 3, 2014 at 8:24 pm #

    I agree with William L. Rogers. Harper should be terminated.

  401. Barb Thomas.October 3, 2014 at 8:23 pm #

    The rhetoric around this sounds like the crusades of the 1300′s. Haven’t we learned anything from the disastrous western attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq?

    • Bill MacKayOctober 3, 2014 at 9:08 pm #

      Barb Thomas is exactly right. Reactionary Western attacks on Islamic territories have always ended very badly, and made matters much worse than they started. And it all started with the medieval crusades. Indeed, the current Islamic terrorist groups (which multiply continuously) are remarkably similar to the original “Assassins” who pushed back the invading crusaders. The Assassins were ruthless and feared nothing, brainwashed into the unswerving belief that losing their lives in defense of Islam was a ticket straight to paradise, where they anticipated a loving harem of beautiful women to serve them forever!

  402. William L. RogersOctober 3, 2014 at 8:21 pm #

    I think Stephen Harper is an evil man. We cannot have any more violence with Iraq than we’ve already had. If we do, fighting may even extend into Canada. I think a politician who is capable of killing innocent Iraqis should be terminated and put into prison.

  403. Denise BowesOctober 3, 2014 at 8:20 pm #

    In olden times, leaders had to go to war themselves. Now they send young people, some recruited from the jobless and economically depressed areas. After Afghanistan, many of our military women and men have PTSD, and our government is doing an inadequate job of helping them recover, which takes time. More military have committed suicide than died in the Afghan mission. Who will be sent on this next mission which is likely to be another quagmire? War does not solve problems. If the money to be spent on this were to be spent on humanitarian aid, we would be doing something.

  404. Ellen DurkeeOctober 3, 2014 at 8:18 pm #

    Other commenter s have said it perfectly.. I dont support Harper in this. We could offer non combat support, or not go at all. This isnt our war and I’m afraid it will only create more hate for the West thereby creating even more terrorists..

  405. matthew smith - bowen island, bcOctober 3, 2014 at 8:13 pm #

    I find it ironic that we have an uncontrolled physical virus loose on the planet while we also have a uncontrolled human virus loose in Africa. Our militaristic mentality wants to fire big bullets at each thinking this is the way to solve the problem. With most clever human viruses, a military assault usually results in a mutation as a defence which outsmarts the attackers. With ISIS I fear the same is true. Using mighty rockets will only prompt a greater enrolment in their ranks, or they will learn how to do an end run around our assault. You cannot defeat ISIS or Taliban on their own soil, no less that you could defeat Canadians if we were invaded by a hostile force.

  406. Sylvia Bews-WrightOctober 3, 2014 at 8:05 pm #

    Since Harper apparently likes to roll out Canadian aircraft, particularly when it comes to flying EU muckymucks back to Belgium after signing a trade deal, I suggest he load up the same aircraft with all the protective garments promised to Ebola stricken countries in West Africa. They were promised days ago but languish in Canada because there are no commercial flights going that way. Give the fighter jets a rest and be magnanimous to the folks who really need help. Cram the “reserved for the PM and the Queen” plane with much-needed aid supplies and get it to Liberia/Sierra Leone NOW.

  407. Jean James Oct 3rdOctober 3, 2014 at 8:02 pm #

    I have had the privilege of travelling in several Islamic areas in different countries and found them warm hearted and hospitable. Even with differences of political thought there is no true reason to fight …….and it will not improve anything

  408. Amir M. MaasoumiOctober 3, 2014 at 8:00 pm #

    PÉTITION À LA CHAMBRE DES COMMUNES RÉUNIE EN PARLEMENT – CANADA:
    « Nous, citoyens, demandons aux élus d’écouter notre voix collective qui dénonce haut et fort le recours à la guerre. Nous croyons que les bombardements envisagés par le Premier Ministre contre les terroristes de l’État islamiste, en absurde alliance avec des pays qui ont nourri leur fanatisme, ne pourront que nuire à la sécurité mondiale. La guerre n’apporte JAMAIS de solution satisfaisante et durable. Depuis 2003, les morts afghanes, irakiennes, libyennes et syriennes en ont fait la preuve un demi-million de fois. Nous croyons que la violence engendre la violence. Nous voulons un pays pacifique, qui s’offre en exemple à l’Organisation des Nations unies. Nous demandons, par conséquent, aux députés[1] de la Chambre des Communes de s’opposer à toute entreprise guerrière du Canada. » Les Artistes pour la Paix soulignent aujourd’hui 2 octobre l’anniversaire de naissance du Mahatma Gandhi, date que l’ONU a choisie pour célébrer la Journée internationale de la non-violence. Plutôt que livrer des discours emphatiques sur Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King et Gandhi, nos élus devraient s’appliquer à ne pas trahir leurs principes sacrés par un consentement à la guerre dévastatrice. Louise Brissette, écrivain-librettiste et co-initiatrice de la pétition Courriel: louisequebec@aei.ca Pierre Jasmin, pianiste, co-initiateur de la pétition et vice-président des APLP Courriel : pierre.jasmin@artistespourlapaix.org [1] Demande adressée à 22 heures 40 le 1er octobre à

    Elizabeth May chef du Parti Vert,
    à Hélène Laverdière du NPD,
    à Marc Garneau du Parti libéral,
    à Louis Plamondon du Bloc Québécois et
    au ministre John Baird,

    dans l’espoir qu’elle inspire leurs discours en Chambre des Communes. Vu la possibilité d’un débat en Chambre dès le 2 octobre, trente personnes (en clin d’oeil aux 30 ans des APLP qu’on célèbrera au Lion d’Or le 10 novembre dans le cadre du Coup de cœur francophone) l’ont hâtivement signée dont : Guylaine Maroist, cinéaste et présidente des APLP; Judi Richards, chanteuse et vice-présidente; Jean-François Garneau, auteur-compositeur-interprète et secrétaire; Diane Croteau, trésorière; Richard Séguin, président d’honneur; Isabelle Miron, écrivain-professeur et membre du CA des APLP; Amir Maasoumi, écrivain; Izabella Marengo, danseuse; Daniel Gingras; Benoît Aquin, photographe; Valéry Latulippe, webmestre; Romain Pollender, homme de théâtre; Dom Lebeau, auteur-compositeur-interprète et observateur au CA; Hervé Fischer, artiste multi-média; Sylva Balassanian, auteure-compositrice-interprète; Dorothy Henaut, cinéaste et peintre; Martin Duckworth, cinéaste; Raoûl Duguay, peintre et auteur-compositeur-interprète; Geneviève Soly, musicienne; Manon Cousin, cinéaste; Marie St-Arnaud, PhD sciences de l’environnement UQAM; Pascale Camirand, philosophe éthicienne féministe; Dominique Boisvert, auteur; André Cloutier; Pascale Montpetit, comédienne; Monique Rondeau, traductrice; André Breton, professeur honoraire/communications; Yvon Rivard, écrivain. Nous sommes honorés de l’appui manifesté par Mary-Ellen Francoeur, Antennes de paix et Pax Christi et par Normand Beaudet, qui engage le Centre de Ressources sur la Non-Violence.

    http://artistespourlapaix.org/?p=5906

  409. Richard BoughOctober 3, 2014 at 8:00 pm #

    What good sensible comments I have read so far.

    Most, if not all wars are started by the use of misinformation, in other words LIES, in WW1 it was the Huns are eating babies, the US occupation of Cuba by sinking the SS Maine and blaming Cuba, Vietnam, where the US invented the word Vietcong and murdered 6 million, 92% of whom were innocent civilians, through to the Blair/Bush project of WMD’s. Now it starts again with the US making up terrorist groups that are non existent, (see this weeks democracynow.org) The modus operendi has always been the same. The US and the UK are the direct cause of the problems the middle east faces now. They caused it, they can put it right!

    Harper likes to be photographed in his flying jacket, even though he can’t fly. Perhaps he should learn and join his war hawk mates and go himself, in those circumstances I wouldn’t mind chipping in with the one way fuel cost.

  410. Vivian JonesOctober 3, 2014 at 7:55 pm #

    If we provided food, housing, education, and health care to emerging nations we would create an environment for peace.

  411. OliverOctober 3, 2014 at 7:55 pm #

    Let’s face it, democracy has become a hoax. Government is controlled by multi-nantional corporations that couldn’t care less about you and I. The root of the problem is the international banking cartels who lend money to governments, money which they create out of thin air. (research it, it’s called fractional reserve banking) Not only does that ”loaned” money have to be repaid to the banks who created it, but they have the odacity to charge interest on top. This means that the debt cannot EVER be repaid because the money to pay the interest has not been created yet, which means more money must be borrowed, on into perpetuity. We in Canada escaped these ”banksters” in large part, until 1974 when Prime Minister Trudeau, under pressure from the IMF, BIS and World Bank, started borrowing money from the commercial banks at interest instead of having the Bank of Canada print it at near zero interest, to be used for public works and such. I have donated money to COMER (Committee On Monetary and Economic Reform) towards their lawsuit, on behalf of the Canadian people, against the Government of Canada for not borrowing their money from the Bank of Canada at zero interest, as the BOC still currantly has the power and mandate to do, and thereby incurring enormous and unnecessary costs for the Canadian taxpayer (for the profits of the banksters) Haven’t heard of this on the news? What more proof do you need that the media is completely controlled by a handful of individuals with the same interests? This should be the biggest story on the evening news, yet not even a mention? Let me inform you. The lawsuit is progressing, so far so good, but there is a long way to go and costs to be incurred.
    Until we get at the roots of the underlying corruption, voting in one government over another is futile. They do what their masters command.
    Thanks for your ear.

  412. Mireille CoralOctober 3, 2014 at 7:52 pm #

    Iraq needs reparations, not yet another war.

  413. PatOctober 3, 2014 at 7:50 pm #

    There’s no nice way to say this: Our prime minister has masculine insecurity issues. His eyes positively light up at words like “Combat” and ” Mission.” I don’t believe that we have a clue what we’re doing in Iraq or Syria. I do know that if we directed our scarce resources to Africa we could definitely save thousands of lives and prevent future conflicts.

  414. Judy LewisOctober 3, 2014 at 7:50 pm #

    Why do we not learn from history? The horrific bombings by the US have not created a better world or stopped the rise of extremist groups. In fact, these policies have very likely contributed to the continued growth rise of extremist groups.

  415. Rick BurrowesOctober 3, 2014 at 7:48 pm #

    The Taliban arose from the misery and the refugee camps created by the Soviet vs US created war in Afghanistan…..boys growing up fatherless in the hopelessness of countries torn apart by wars imposed on them by foreigners.
    ISIS arose from NATO nations bombing Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Syria etc. and the millions of refugees whose lives and countries we’ve shattered with our wars or by supporting ruthless dictators who do the west’s bidding.
    War begets war. This is the lesson of the Taliban and IS. ….a lesson that our oil corporations and arms dealing governments don’t want us to learn.
    Canada should be, as the Liberals, NDP and Greens have said, helping the people that our allies have imposed this misery on.
    The logic that the problems we have created with the bombing and killing and the misery of war can be eliminated with more bombing and killing and misery serves only those that profit from this vicious cycle.

    • Andrew GrahamOctober 3, 2014 at 7:57 pm #

      Thank-you Rick. I couldn’t have said it any better.

  416. Wendy OunpuuOctober 3, 2014 at 7:47 pm #

    I don’t believe that wars ever settle anything. There has to be another way.

  417. Katy AustinOctober 3, 2014 at 7:47 pm #

    I agree wholeheartedly with Elizabeth May’s speech in the House of Commons on October 3 in which, while supporting Mr. Harper’s good intentions, she states clearly that the past 25 years of conflict in the Middle East have shown that war is not the answer.

  418. Dianne VargaOctober 3, 2014 at 7:47 pm #

    SENT TO ALL MPs

    On the eve of Stephen Harper calling on you to approve a combat mission against ISIS, the headlines are relentless.

    Make no mistake, the savagery and lethality of the genocidal, rampaging group is inescapable.

    That said, there’s nothing peculiar about its savagery. When is war not barbaric – whether conducted by ourselves or others, whether conducted in Afghanistan or the Congo, Palestine or Chechnya, on the ground or through the use of decapitating, vaporizing drones?

    Even peace can be extraordinarily barbaric. Take Saudi Arabia, for instance. They behead about 100 of their own people a year as an expression of their justice system.

    The world is chockfull of savagery and slaughter, and the sad truth is that most often no one does anything about it.

    The trick is to ask why a country does decide to do something instead of doing the usual nothing.

    Why, for example, does the Harper government want to intervene to stop ISIS, but does not want to intervene in Burma, where human rights violations include the abuse of ethnic minorities, the mass rape of women, mandatory relocations, extrajudicial state executions, the military recruitment of children, and forced labour?

    Why does the Harper government want to intervene in Iraq and Syria, but not in the Congo, where conflict drags on and victims are mostly women, girls, and ethnic groups including the Banyamulenge, the Hutu Banyarwanda, the Hema and the Lendu?

    Why does Canada not want to intervene in South Sudan? The president of that country appealed at the U.N. less than a week ago for help to vanquish its own rebels, but seems to have been ignored by everyone.

    Our prime minister has given two rationales in recent days for military intervention in Iraq and Syria. First, he alluded to multilateral cooperation for the greater good when he said, “We do not stand on the sidelines and watch. We do our part. That’s always how this country has handled its international responsibilities, and as long as I’m prime minister that’s what we will continue to do.”

    When one considers that in 2010 – the year Canada was denied a seat on the U.N. Security Council – we contributed a mere 221 peacekeepers out of 99,926 deployed throughout the world, we can see there has been a distinct shortage of multilateral cooperation in the recent past.

    There’s also the glaring fact that Canada trades information with torturers, violating all international legal norms, and the fact that Canada is the only country in the world to have withdrawn from the Kyoto Protocol to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.

    On the eve of war, it’s no time for Canadians to adopt this prime minister’s belief that he will always work towards the greater good, and that handling international responsibilities is something we naturally do, and therefore must do in Iraq and Syria.

    The second justification given by Prime Minister Harper for going to war involves the notion that ISIS is, he said, “planning attacks, not just genocide against large populations in the region but . . . attacks against this country.”

    Not even happy American warriors consider ISIS an imminent national security threat. While the Americans have stepped back from that particular brink, Stephen Harper takes up the slack, behaving like Rice, Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush when they shamelessly lied about Saddam Hussein having WMDs in order to justify the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

    Countless observers have noted that it would be folly to become involved in a conflict where friends and enemies switch up faster than partners in a square dance; that war is the quintessential expression of failed politics, and only gives rise to more enemies; that war is a curse of humankind, and brings joy only to arms manufacturers and generals.

    President Obama has himself said over and over again that there is no U.S. military solution in Iraq or Syria. War is therefore a failure of logic, and open-ended war an open-ended failure.

    As for solutions, there’s been no shortage of analyses to do with addressing Sunni grievances, creating a more inclusive government in Baghdad, undermining ISIS through financial pressures, stopping the flow of arms to that group, to other rebels, and indeed to the entire Middle East, cutting off the movement of fighters into the region, meeting humanitarian needs, and restarting serious international negotiations on ending the complex set of wars in Syria.

    To do something instead of doing the usual nothing does not mean we have to do something militarily.

    To believe otherwise displays either a failure of imagination or a willful desire to meet violence with violence.

  419. Jillian SkeetOctober 3, 2014 at 7:46 pm #

    Where to begin? This whole mess is our doing – i.e. the result of disastrous western foreign policies in the Middle East that were always about maintaining access to oil with absolutely no regard for the citizens, democracy or human rights. Just look at the US relationship with the Saudis and Kuwaitis. The only way the West can have any positive impact on the situation is to get out and stay out – no interference of any kind. Every penny Western countries would happily commit to bombing should instead go to the UN High Commission for Refugees, UNICEF, the UN Food and Agriculture Organization and the Red Crescent – no strings attached (I can hear western countries grumbling already. How sad that they have no problem coming up with millions to bomb but can’t quite find the funds when it’s about saving instead of destroying lives…)

  420. Janet VickersOctober 3, 2014 at 7:45 pm #

    The benefit of going to war with Iraq far outweighs the consequences for those in power, because it is the people on the ground who will suffer and the soldiers on the front line and the families who love them. There will be less opportunity for people generally and more wealth for the arms industry. There will be less discussion about how to heal the world with its ongoing trauma and more centralized power. The intricacies and subtleties of life and learning how to get along with one another will be overshadowed by fear and imposed right wing solutions. The focus on the evil of a foreign organization means that our prime minister will enjoy a greater unquestioning loyalty. So for the rich, the powerful and the alpha egos, war is a bonanza, but for the rest of us we will become sick, depressed, and further away from our human potential. And so the power elite will lock in their privilege as the masses are bombed and terrorised.

  421. Lyle ElderOctober 3, 2014 at 7:40 pm #

    Our Prime Minister seems to be looking for a fight. He tried in the Ukraine and he seems to have found one in Iraq. I don’t believe that he has a mandate to take us to war; but then men like him don’t need mandates, they just need the power. Until wiser Canadian voters take that power away from him, we are all in trouble.

  422. Victor de Hrussoczy WirthOctober 3, 2014 at 7:34 pm #

    Harper has been a puppet of Israel and the Arms Industry.
    Unless he goes, Canada is going to have trouble on the International scene.
    His policies are most certainly of no benefit to us Canadians.
    However he is getting good points from the USA and Israel.
    Canadians were,- and are peace makers for at the last three quarter of century!
    Let us keep it that way, – and boot out the “trigger-happy” politicians.

  423. anne cameronOctober 3, 2014 at 7:33 pm #

    This is NOT sanctioned by the United Nations, and thus it is an egregious violation of international law. We have $40,000 an hour to keep a plane busy bombing unarmed civilians and no money for improved health care and social services at home.
    This is a continuation of the US policy of genocide in the Middle East as they try to control the oil resources and ensure that their petro-dollar remains strong. Harper is a total A-hole if he continues with the slaughter. For every combatant injured or killed on either or all sides in a combat there are twelve unarmed civilians killed, most of the women, children, and old people. “Thou shalt not murder” and it is murder to bomb helpless unarmed people.
    No , no no, never in my name! Stop the madness. The hubris shown is more of a threat to life on earth than ISIL will ever be.

  424. Susan ToddOctober 3, 2014 at 7:29 pm #

    How much “collateral damage” will we be responsible for this time around? I am ashamed to be Canadian in Harper’s Canada, and it truly is Harper’s Canada as he continues to undermine our democratic institutions. Bombing is never the solution to conflict and will only create more desperate angry people.

  425. simon goodOctober 3, 2014 at 7:25 pm #

    i was happier with the NDP approach to find less violent ways of helping in the effort, such as helping refugies

  426. Maria Antonietta Francini MD MAOctober 3, 2014 at 7:24 pm #

    I DO NOT WANT MORE WARS
    I WAS A VICTIM OF WORLD WAR II IN EUROPE

    STARVATION AND BOMBING

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
    BE RATIONAL!

  427. Judyth MermelsteinOctober 3, 2014 at 7:23 pm #

    Neither the UN nor NATO has determined that bombing in Iraq is the appropriate response to ISIS. It is certain that such airstrikes will lead to more civilian deaths and displacements in addition to those caused by ISIS. It is also certain that another result will be further aggravation of the very factors that lead to terrorism — namely, the poverty, injustice and loss of family and friends that fuel the anger and desperation of young men and make it seem that westerners are their true enemy.
    The rhetoric branding ISIS as the enemies of humanity sounds terribly hypocritical coming from those who are so eager to make war — especially a war on those who would not be in their present strong position without the arms provided by the west and the chaos brought on by the previous “war on terror” attacks.
    It can only seem strange to any thinking person that the execution of a few western hostages is deemed such a heinous crime as to require fullscale war, whereas thousands exterminated elsewhere in the Middle Eastern and African countries is unworthy of anything beyond token attention. It is obvious that making war will only lead to more death and destruction, not less, and encourage more, not fewer, reprisals against Canada and the other participants.
    The government of Canada knows full well that a majority of Canadians do not support entry into an ill-defined mission against an ill-defined target, which will inevitably cost blood as well as treasure and most likely lead to years of turmoil. It also knows, or should know, that the real threat to Canadian security is not ISIS but the dozens of Al-Qaeda offshoots and copycats whose hatreds will only increase with further attacks in the Middle East.
    Please reconsider: there are other things Canada can do to help the victims of ISIS and other terrorist groups, to support the nations now deluged with refugees, and to encourage the Arab nations to move towards more democratic governance.

  428. j browningOctober 3, 2014 at 7:21 pm #

    Steven Harper is a cancer on the body of Canada.
    Regardless, he may serve a purpose in that his extreme disregard for the well-being of Canadians may wake up the sheeple to the fact that he and many politicians like him operate on their own elitist agendas while pretending to care about the interests of the citizens of the country. We need a true democracy without the corruption and party politics, without the international corporate agendas and the international elite string pulling. Canada should be, could be a wonderful example for the whole world of true democracy, environmental stewardship, sustainable economics and human rights; unfortunately we currently compare to third world countries in all of these areas. Things need to change now!

  429. Janice LambOctober 3, 2014 at 7:17 pm #

    No one ever wins a war. We should be spending our money on keeping peace.
    I think it is time that we quit sending our young men and women into battle. There has to be another way. We have learned nothing from our previous military experiences.

    • RichardOctober 3, 2014 at 7:22 pm #

      There are innocent people being murdered. Past mistakes that compounded this do not change the death toll. Something has to be done to help humans survive this stupidity. If ISIS wins they will continue and all the people we medically helped will suffer anyway.

  430. David ThomsonOctober 3, 2014 at 7:15 pm #

    One more outrage to add to Harper’s abominable record. On the global stage, we’re well on our way to becoming as disliked as our southern neighbour.

  431. HeatherOctober 3, 2014 at 7:15 pm #

    Don’t forget that the bullets are made in Montreal

  432. Sumi HASEGAWAOctober 3, 2014 at 7:15 pm #

    Any kind ofbombing can never reate a real peace. Human histry proves it.

  433. Marsha LakeOctober 3, 2014 at 7:14 pm #

    Yet again , Canada is the coffee cart for the USA.!

  434. NancyOctober 3, 2014 at 7:13 pm #

    PLEASE SEE YOUTUBE: “Peace Sonnet Happy Thanksgiving!”

  435. Mary E. KrestelOctober 3, 2014 at 7:12 pm #

    Iagree comple tely with Carol BOwers who said: “Bombing the Middle East will not increase Canada’s security. It will only add to the death of innocents. In doing so we will ensure the continuation of hatred and vengence and those who have been harmed will look to us as the enemy. The sending of the CF 18′s is just a prelude to a greater war

  436. BobOctober 3, 2014 at 7:12 pm #

    Has our Canadian government forgotten history? Sending fighters over to Iraq is a waste of time and potentially lives. Stay out of Iraq!!

  437. Rita PollockOctober 3, 2014 at 7:10 pm #

    As if our 6 jets would make a difference! Do what we do best. Peace Keeping. Help the people to help themselves. Provide humanitarian aide If we want a world without war help people not start wars and make more enemies.

    All this does is keep the weapons companies doing business. Don’t give weapons and train people who then use those weapons and training against us.

    Do we ever learn?

  438. Philip De RosaOctober 3, 2014 at 7:10 pm #

    Stevie Harper is our very own Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and Powell combined.

  439. Douglas JackOctober 3, 2014 at 7:10 pm #

    Speech: Military Action in Iraq 3Oct’14 http://elizabethmaymp.ca/military-action-iraq Elizabeth May, Leader of the Green Party of Canada, Thank you. The level of Canadian, US, NATO & Israeli finance, arms, munitions & security implication is very high in the whole region. We are a part of the Oded-Yinon plan for destabilizing every Islamic state for the goal of a Greater Israel. Here is an e-link to the west’s creation of ISIS, as you alluded to in your speech. http://scgnews.com/the-covert-origins-of-isis
    We have ‘intellectual-cowardice’ on the part of all members of Canada’s Commons except Elizabeth May & Bruce Hyer. I was on the executive of my local NDP riding association & face-to-face interviewed 8 NDP MPs (5 leadership candidates) & 13 NDP Parliamentary assistants. During the Libya bombing, not one NDP MP leader or assistant would read, research or view the Libyan file from a peace & negotiation point-of-view, before, during or after, now with 250,000 dead. Some complained about Jack Layton’s pressuring for a yes vote but still had no interest in reviewing the argument for peace.
    Mohandas Gandhi, “I can imagine a fully armed man to be at heart a coward. Possession of arms implies an element of fear, if not cowardess. But true non-violence is an impossibility without the possession of unadulterated fearlessness.”
    Intellectual cowards hide behind war because of the psychological difficulty with dialogue. Gandhi ‘Satyagraha’ (Hindi ‘truth-search’) & ‘indigenous’ (Latin ‘self-generating’) practices require that we demand our perceived opponents such as ISIS, sit down in Both-sided, equal-time, recorded & published ‘debates’ (French ‘de’ = ‘undo’ + ‘bate’ = ‘the-fight’) & that we convene debate among all stakeholders. Only when a party refuses this opportunity to debate, have their debated perspectives widely shared & yet continue with aggression to innocents, do we have the right & obligation to military or police intervention. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues

  440. DonOctober 3, 2014 at 7:09 pm #

    Will harper’s planes be dropping depleted uranium bombs the way we did when we got involved in bombing Libya? harper should be at ground zero on this mission. View the doc “9/11, the New Pearl Harbour”.

  441. Mike JamesOctober 3, 2014 at 7:06 pm #

    Canada stay out of Iraq

  442. Cam WattsOctober 3, 2014 at 7:06 pm #

    This reminds me of Gary Trudeau’s description of the invasion of Grenada as “Operation Frequent Manhood”.

  443. David WoodOctober 3, 2014 at 7:00 pm #

    So have our political leaders been struck with a new strain of the Patriot’s Dream or with short term memory loss?
    As Canada considers going to war to help eradicate ISIS and it’s ilk, perhaps we might consider the lessons of history in our debate.
    Stephen Harper once spoke of Canada’s mission in Afghanistan as “bringing the torch light of democracy into the caves of tribalism”.
    George Bush also proclaimed much the same as reason to invade Iraq believing that once democracy was rooted there, it would spread like wildfire.
    I wonder if all this still rings true for the many soldiers who fought in those wars and are now dealing with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)?
    The problem with bringing the light of democracy and freedom to the mid east is that it gets refracted and distorted through the prism of tribalism that has existed for centuries. It is often scorned and suspected to be more an act of imperialism by the very people we go to war for. (If they live beyond the first wave of bombings.)
    T.E. Lawrence (of Arabia) learned this when he united the Bedoin tribes for England’s just cause in WW1. Only to be later tossed aside as a mere pawn by his political masters who than sat down with the tribal war lords, redrew the maps, and divided the booty. But of course, in the eyes of the English public, as it does now, it is sold as establishing democracy and the freedom for all that comes with it. Not to mention stability it brings to the region for the corporations with holdings in those lands.

    David Wood

    • vic boothOctober 3, 2014 at 7:24 pm #

      ISIS looks like an evil threat to the middle east and has issued threats against Canada and its allies so from where I sit we ignore them at our peril.An all powerful ISIS state could eventually go nuclear and with their fundamentalist Islamic intolerant theology would not hesitate trying to wipe out anybody in the name of Allah.
      We tried to ignore Hitler and look where that got us.
      Much as I wish King Harper was not our King,we have a responsibility to do our part and support our allies,so I support him in this.
      I think you should give your head a serious shake if you think Canada can be neutral in this shrinking world we live in.
      So while I think history will show that King Harper has been the most evil and destructive leader this country has ever had,We have to do this.

  444. Ken StoneOctober 3, 2014 at 7:00 pm #

    I am a member of Ceasefire.
    Please sign and distribute my petition to all MP’s NOT to send the CF-18′s on a combat mission to Iraq and Syria. It is at:
    https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Members_of_the_Canadian_House_of_Commons_DONT_send_CF18_fighterbombers_on_a_combat_mission_to_Iraq_and_Syria/
    Please also see my op-ed piece in the Hamilton Spectator today. It is at:
    http://www.thespec.com/opinion-story/4894518-bring-canadian-soldiers-home/
    Let’s let all our MP’s hear from us why it is a bad idea to join the US-led coalition for the further destruction of Iraq and Syria.

  445. Bert SlaterOctober 3, 2014 at 6:58 pm #

    we used to be peacekeepers – now we are peace makers.

    • Lili Soleil GarbuttOctober 3, 2014 at 7:07 pm #

      Harper must do what the U.S. wants he wants to look like a big tough guy . I think Justin Trudeau and Tom Mulcair see the danger in this ” heroic ” move by Harper. LET US VOTE HARPER OUT before it is too Late.

  446. Graham MulliganOctober 3, 2014 at 6:57 pm #

    This is a Harper war. Without parliament’ s approval Harper has announced that we are at war and now will go back and get his puppet majority to approve it.

  447. Gary BlackwoodOctober 3, 2014 at 6:57 pm #

    With such actions, we are not fighting militants, we are creating more of them. And we are harming far more civilians than ombatants.

  448. Zeb LandonOctober 3, 2014 at 6:56 pm #

    It is time to step back from the whole military approach and ask ourselves what could be done to diffuse, and de-escalate conflicts, i.e., take into account a serious study of the roots of conflict.
    At the core of the hatred against the West is its dishonest consent to and condoning of Israel’s apartheid government begun in 1948, the very one that Palestinians for decades have quite correctly rejected having forced upon them. If the West was ethical in a truly Christian spirit (which it has not been in dealing with the Middle East) I believe the radicalized Islamists would find very little backing.
    I appreciate that at least Elizabeth May has had the moral courage to speak up.

  449. John InkpenOctober 3, 2014 at 6:55 pm #

    It seems that the arms manufacturers of the world need constant war to stay in a hugely profitable business and our leaders are playing right into their hands while thousands of innocent people are being killed and maimed by these arms.

    • HeatherOctober 3, 2014 at 7:10 pm #

      Don’t forget that the bullets are made in Montreal

  450. doug stalmanOctober 3, 2014 at 6:54 pm #

    have we learned nothing? we have other options with which to aid the area. I agree that the terrorists should be dealt with but not with Canadian/western armies. military mentoring of middle eastern armies and medical aid for the injured innocents that will surely happen, is the level of involvement that outside parties should limit themselves to. the area is wealthy in natural resources that the western world should help teach them to better manage them. the more that outsiders interfere with the middle east the more their internal problems (bad ones at that!) escalate. Little arab boys will always be throwing rocks at somebody until they learn there is a better way . Stephen Harper, Bonaparte wannabe , should back off.

  451. CarolynOctober 3, 2014 at 6:53 pm #

    This is not about protecting Canadians or protecting anyone. It’s a deliberate attempt to start a war, which means big money for the military-industrial complex; it could also provide an excuse down the road to invoke the war measures act. It’s all about power and money. This war machine needs to be disassembled.

  452. toby dentOctober 3, 2014 at 6:50 pm #

    No no no no no
    No consultation
    No discussion
    Bombs away
    Violence begets more violence
    Send Harper there instead

  453. Colin LowOctober 3, 2014 at 6:50 pm #

    The aircraft should leave with Harper on board. Maybe he would think again. All big chiefs are eager to send young people to war but not one of them would have the guts to go first.

  454. MichaelOctober 3, 2014 at 6:49 pm #

    It has been shown over and over again that bombing missions are highly speculative and inaccurate, and we have repeatedly seen the carnage they primarily bring to non-combatants. Why do we want to contribute to this mission? They say we’re going after militants, but the practical result will be a random slaughter of Arab people. This will not reduce the number of people out for revenge.

  455. Carol BowersOctober 3, 2014 at 6:47 pm #

    Bombing the Middle East will not increase Canada’s security. It will only add to the death of innocents. In doing so we will ensure the continuation of hatred and vengence and those who have been harmed will look to us as the enemy. Humanitarian aid is necessary and honouring our previous committments essential. We have not brought in the Syrian refugees that we have said we would…..why not? Families are waiting. Suport for the displaced in Syria, Jordan and Libya must be our focus. The sending of the CF 18′s is just a prelude to a greater war.

  456. Maureen O'HaganOctober 3, 2014 at 6:45 pm #

    A Most Definite NO!

  457. Blake MacLeodOctober 3, 2014 at 6:45 pm #

    I reject absolutely the idea that Canada must become involved in these manufactured wars in Middle East. This is not the way to peace, and this enemy is a miniscule threat, but more than that…it is NATO and it’s allies led by the hegemonic bully that shall not be named that have created this situation with the relentless meddling and manipulation.

    Shame on our nation…this government brings shame on the Canadian people, too many of whom still believe that any Conservative or Liberal Party government has he interests of the citizens in mind over that of the corrupting influence of wealth & power.

    I am truly disgusted with this Crime Minister and his dull witted henchmen, and my heart is filled with sorrow at the fallen state of our nation.

  458. Ruth JohnstonOctober 3, 2014 at 6:45 pm #

    We’ve been told early in life, that 2 wrongs never made a right. What makes this different? To fight killing with more killing will only give ISIS more ammunition to use against innocent people on both sides of the conflict. Let’s air lift the people in danger of genocide out of there, drop food and supplies to innocents caught in the cross-fire, and then all those opposed to ISIS must stand, united, to find a way to end the conflict.

  459. Jim CarmichaelOctober 3, 2014 at 6:43 pm #

    The current war against ISIS stems directly from the USA’s totally wrongheaded decision to invade Iraq 11 years ago. The Canadian Government made the correct decision not to participate in that war, despite the pro-war stance of the Leader of Canada’s Opposition. That same Canadian opposition leader is now the Prime Minister of Canada who intends to take our country into this follow-on war. It is time to break this downward-spiraling war cycle that was initiated by the USA in 2003, and find more positive and creative approaches to the ISIS threat. To do so, we must examine closely why terrorism is gathering strength in places like Iraq and Syria. That is, we should search for and address root causes of this barbaric phenomenon and why young people from across the world, including Canada, are being drawn into it. This might give us the basis for an effective counter-terrorism strategy. But of course, our Prime Minister has no interest in root causes!

    • Maria TurnerOctober 3, 2014 at 6:45 pm #

      NO!

    • Susan HuebertOctober 3, 2014 at 7:00 pm #

      The turmoil left by recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan should show that military action is risky at best. As soon as one ruthless group is gone, another springs up in its place. If the Canadian government really wants to remove the threat of groups like ISIS, it should work towards peace and equality so that people no longer want to join radical groups.

  460. Rob VanderkamOctober 3, 2014 at 6:40 pm #

    What has the UN said?

  461. Leonard SawatskyOctober 3, 2014 at 6:39 pm #

    It is appropriate and courageous on the part of some Muslim leaders to publicly denounce ISIL and other terrorist groups who claim to be Muslim as being NOT Muslim. It is just as appropriate to denounce Harper and other Western leaders who believe that violence and war is the answer to terrorism or any confrontation for that matter as NOT Christian. They do not have a clue about the teachings of Christ.

  462. Jeremy AngerOctober 3, 2014 at 6:38 pm #

    I believe that military intervention against ISIS will only fuel more hatred and terrorism, the only thing I support is peace. I think that any combat role from our country would be unjustified and will result in the murder of more innocents. The size of ISIS has been estimated to be approximately 3000, in comparison to the populations in the middle east this is a very small percentage. There are worse atrocities going on in the world such as in the Congo, the Gaza strip, and North Korea, but for some reason we care little to get involved with what is going on in those places. If the only reason that ISIS has NATO up in arms is because of the vast amount of oil in the middle east, it only makes our reasoning to get involved even more convoluted and despicable.
    If anything we should assist in training local militaries to deal with these extremists, support their governments with aid, and look for other ways to keep the peace other than spreading death and destruction.

  463. Jeff ArchambeaultOctober 3, 2014 at 6:37 pm #

    I favour humanitarian efforts, re setttlements, transportation of goods in support of allies, everything short of direct military action as proposed by this Govt. When this Govt gives as much care and attention to our own missing aboriginal women, then, I might consider trusting them to go to Middle East to protect somebody else’s….. it is a distraction for this Con Govt Group. That page in Parliament said it prophetically: Stop Harper.

  464. Selma TischerOctober 3, 2014 at 6:33 pm #

    First of all, from the air strikes that already took place, xe can see that they are not very efficient!
    Second, there is much risk of the so-called “collateral damage” and
    Third, I believe that wars never solve any thing.
    They just profit the weapon industry!

  465. Rosemary Breschuk-ChiuOctober 3, 2014 at 6:33 pm #

    This is all going to end very, very badly.

  466. JOHN ISH ISHMAELOctober 3, 2014 at 6:32 pm #

    Harper’s is a long play for when he can send more troops to become dead “heroes” to fulfill his very recent blood oath- “Canada will protect ISrael. WHATEVER the cost.”
    To protect the Protocols for Defence of the Greater Realm.
    After the ISrael inspired smashing of Syria and Iraq for the Greater Realm, with ISrsaeli militarily bases already installed in Kurdish Iraq, and anti Assad fundamentalists on the IDF weapons and intelligence corridors, the Islamic State arose out of the fog of war and the hubris of a self chosen’s self adoration, and snatched much of the territory for the Greater Realm.

    ISH
    John ISH Ishmael.

  467. Iain BrodieOctober 3, 2014 at 6:29 pm #

    Heck no.

    I just finished a lesson on persuasive writing with my amazing and massively multicultural grade 7s and 8s. We talked about which was mightier, the pen or the sword. We concluded that the sword just killed people, but the pen helped create and communicate ideas. You can kill someone but you can never kill an idea with a sword, only better ideas. When some of the students were not sure if that was true, I said, that I could prove it with one word: Iraq. Nodding heads abounded.

    I nominate the 12 and 13 year olds in my class to run this country. It’s obvious the grown ups have screwed it up.

  468. Robert RodvikOctober 3, 2014 at 6:28 pm #

    Steve Harper, it is alleged, talks directly with God. But God said”Thou shalt not Kill.” Since Harper is a murderous misfit of misfortune, I’m itching to know: who exactly is it that Harper connives with in those deep depths of perfidy slouching over his shoulders?

  469. Sterling Haynes MDOctober 3, 2014 at 6:28 pm #

    Please No War. Fight for peace: there are no deaths, collateral damage or wounded. Who wants to clean up the mess or pay for war?

  470. Trevor W JacksonOctober 3, 2014 at 6:26 pm #

    Nobody ever bombed an idea or belief into submission. Positive, constructive efforts are the only thing which will deter the violence.

  471. Marie LloydOctober 3, 2014 at 6:24 pm #

    No intervening country outside the Middle East- and likely not the great majority within it- has any idea of the end goals and motives of those illusory “moderate Syrian rebels they want to leap in and support with the very young men whose bodies they will be moving around like chess pieces in lines of fire. Our P.M. reminds me of Bottom in A Midsummer Night’s Dream: a rude mechanical with the transposed head of an ass. On the other hand, Bottom was never conniving or malevolent…

  472. Julieta Carrasco-SalvoOctober 3, 2014 at 6:23 pm #

    NO TO WAR!!!

  473. AlbertoOctober 3, 2014 at 6:22 pm #

    Those nation that NOW are going against ISIL, are the same that a few years ago, they were supporting and finance them, training them, etc…they created ISIL…and NOW want to stop them…ironies of wars….

  474. Randy BrownOctober 3, 2014 at 6:22 pm #

    Mr. Harper, you are leading us into dangerous waters with your willingness to proceed into war! The U.S. has very few days it hasn’t been at war. Would you go into a War that is not sanctioned by either the U.N. or Nato? Very foolish. The U.S. war on Terrorism is worse now than it was 13 yrs. ago. We see this war will never end!

  475. Jacob RempelOctober 3, 2014 at 6:22 pm #

    We (Canada) are also at fault for these perpetual imperial wars across Yugoslavia and the Middle East and now in Africa. Canada, after all, did not definitively oppose the wars, and we even gave diplomatic and some materiel support, not to mention that some of our industry supplied arms and machines for a profit. Canada cannot claim innocence. We are also responsible, more so because of the FTA, NAFTA, MAI, etc., which integrated capital investments and so many more of our corporations with imperialist U.S. corporations and their supportive imperialist U.S.Regime. I hope that the NDP, the Liberal Party, the Bloc, the Green Pary, and Independents all recognize Canada’s share of responsibility for these wars. The United Nations, Canada and the rest of the governments in the world need to lead us all in our common human challenge to restore climate and environmetal balance around our planet.
    —JacobRempel,Vancouver

  476. DavidOctober 3, 2014 at 6:21 pm #

    The U.S. (George W. Bush, Cheney, et al.) and Britain (Tony Blair, et al.) created the IS monster with their illegal, brutal and cowardly invasion/occupation/destruction of Iraq and massive slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocents and the displacement of millions. If a legitimate argument can be made for FOREIGN military intervention (none thus far), it should be confined to British and American forces.

    Furthermore, to note the elephant in the living room, the hypocrisy of western leaders (with rare exception), especially Harper and Obama, given their unquestioning support of and subservience to Israel, a thoroughly documented racist, illegal occupier, expansionist, oppressor state and serial violator of hard won international humanitarian law, including war crimes and crimes against humanity, is blatant and overwhelming. Needless to say, the entire Arab and Muslim world is acutely aware of it. As is the vast majority of all peoples around the world.

  477. larry carneyOctober 3, 2014 at 6:21 pm #

    Harper is saluting U.S. policies and letting the “big money” war-makers lead him along.

  478. Mary PetersOctober 3, 2014 at 6:21 pm #

    I do not support the motion to fight. It will only create more enemies. We should be doing more to help with humanitarian needs. How much could we help improve people’s lives with the money they want to spend on this mission?

  479. Dr. David MaxwellOctober 3, 2014 at 6:20 pm #

    Mr. Harper is not driven by rationality, but, rather by ideology. He answers, not to the people, but to the corporations, including the weapons manufacturers. The role of the people in his universe is to pay for the military machine to grind on. Rather than being concerned at limiting costs, it is most beneficial from his perspective to maximise costs – because it means that much more profit for the military-industrial complex. Human lives, on either side are completely irrelevant in this, except as propaganda to convince a sceptical public to pony up more money. Of course bombing the hell out of Middle Eastern populations is unlikely to achieve anything other than create increased opposition to the West, but this is perversely a highly desirable outcome from Mr. Harper’s perspective, because it justifies increased expenditures of both money and human resources on an ongoing basis.

    • noreen galvinOctober 3, 2014 at 6:24 pm #

      I do not want canada to be drawn into harper’s war. I would like humanitarian aid sent, the Kurds armed. and refugees from Iraq and syria brought here.

  480. Linda MurphyOctober 3, 2014 at 6:20 pm #

    This would be pure insanity. We are having a rally on Monday to protest this idiotic motion.

  481. Colleen WhittemoreOctober 3, 2014 at 6:20 pm #

    Violence is never the answer. It just makes things worse. The Bush administration used blatent lies about WMD’s, 9/11, imminent threats and even nuclear war to justify their invasion of Iraq. They propagandized how they would bring democracy to the people and instead left it in tatters. Many parts of Iraq are still without the infrastructure they need to live a decent life. Just under 3,000 people died in the 9/11 attacks in the US so they decided to get revenge by killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq creating more hatred towards the West. The US and Britain’s interference in the Middle East propping up brutal dictators for their own self interest has come home to roost. The world celebrated when Osama Bin Laden was murdered as if somehow that would make a difference. We all know the definition of insanity…this insane new war instigated by the most disappointing president in history…the nobel peace prize winner…Obama…will be another ugly mess that will kill many more innocents and recruit msny more “terrorists”. I am so angry about this I could go on and on and on but I must save my energy for protesting . :-)

  482. AlbertoOctober 3, 2014 at 6:17 pm #

    Don’t approved our weak leadership gov’t. to send war planes. We have some many needs in our nation and fund can be used in so many social programs, health, sport, elders, education (should be cheaper and no so many student with a BIG debts, etc….NO WAR – NO MORE !

  483. Rosalind IrvingOctober 3, 2014 at 6:17 pm #

    We would be taking more heavy weaponry into a region where today’s shaky allies are tomorrow’s enemies. War is not the answer.
    Intelligent work among would-be allies to prevent radicalization at home would likely be far more effective in preempting Islamist extremism. Germany has taken the lead in this initiative in the face of Nazism; we could learn from them.

  484. Jennifer W.October 3, 2014 at 6:16 pm #

    We are being tricked into our own destruction by very frightening forces who know what they are about. I do not know what we should do but there must be more subtle and intelligent ways to combat what jihadists and extremists are doing than to send in bombers. I fear we play into their hands appalled at the terrible suffering of people there.

  485. Bill DonaldsonOctober 3, 2014 at 6:15 pm #

    In this case I think the Government of Canada is justified to make a token contribution to the effort to “degrade and destroy ISIL,” as the US President put it.

    To describe ISIL as “Islamic militants” is to vastly understate its character. Actually, it’s an extremely violent, murderous, group that carries out mass slaughters, engages in slavery, even genocidal attempts to wipe out peoples and members of other religions and sects of Islam. In the pursuit of establishing a “caliphate” in the region, ISIS respects no national boundaries. Again today we are hearing about another ritual beheading by ISIS. This bunch are not mere militants; they are messianic terrorists and ought to be stopped.

    The US has secured the commitment of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Turkey, Australian, the UK, France and several others to go after ISIS. I think it is proper to join the US in such a campaign. I believe ceasefire.ca should drop its objections to Canada’s participation in this modest mission.

  486. Maurice FortinOctober 3, 2014 at 6:14 pm #

    Ann Coffey very good point, cant do the right thing, playing with the big boys and he cannot even enforce our soldiers if need be to have the BEST tools when needed, we can easily make them ourselves but no, waste waste waste cut cut cut.

    Stop the war, especially in your own country before you go marching into someone else’s affairs, we are not police of the world, as a leader you are supposed to know when it is time to march, and when it is time to stay on the sidelines protecting your own. We really do not need other problems on top of the ones we already face thank you very much.

    Billion dollar jets why not, billions for going to war, instead maybe take that same billion for a few months and give a nice pay day to those in need HERE?

  487. Jean SimoneauOctober 3, 2014 at 6:13 pm #

    Il s’agit là d’une guerre de religion entre factions islamiques qui s’entre-tuent à savoir qui rapportent les vraies paroles du Prophète. Une guerre de religion régionale. Une guerre aussi de pétrole. D’ailleurs, dans le livre La paix indésirable, on disait que le système économique ne peut pas survivre s’il n’y a pas des guerres régionales pour stimuler l’industrie des armes au bénéfice des grandes puissances mondiales.

  488. AlbertoOctober 3, 2014 at 6:12 pm #

    All those war initiated by USA and supported by head-less nations, may lead to the 3th world war. The SO CALLED democratic nations should respect the sovereignty and territory of other nations. No not be so greedy and try to steal natural resources for every where at ALL cost…The so called democratic nations,,,NEVER ask their population for an consent to go to a war. So democratic country has been in war for more than 100 years, no moral and principal values…why? Reasons ? Maybe, the corporations owners it and promote wars ?? Can they be responsible for genocides ? Crimes against humanity ?

  489. Tony BellOctober 3, 2014 at 6:12 pm #

    Do Not put our brave Canadian soldiers in a situation that can only end badly.

  490. ClaudineOctober 3, 2014 at 6:12 pm #

    I don’t approve of Harper’s war. We should spend the money on helping with Ebola with humanitarian help so to irradicate the disease.

  491. Doug CottrellOctober 3, 2014 at 6:11 pm #

    Stick to expressing your sexual insecurities with your sycophant boy-toys. Murder against the wishes of the Canadian public is NOT WITHIN YOUR MANDATE you wannabe Fascist Em

  492. Gerald ChopikOctober 3, 2014 at 6:10 pm #

    Have we not learned ANY lessons from our fallen and PTSD soldiers from Afghanistan? NO MORE WAR!!! Humanitarian aid only.

  493. Robert RiedlingerOctober 3, 2014 at 6:09 pm #

    Harper is a slow learner.He is inviting the terrorist to Canada like Bush did by bombing Iraq for no reason.We should only attack when we are threatened or attacked.We have no business in the mid East.To You Mr.Harper-Stay home and protect us Canadians ,we need protection fro your other boo boos.

  494. Maurice FortinOctober 3, 2014 at 6:09 pm #

    Seems everything the harper government has done has been for enabling war, hunger, allowing U.S to have continued dominance over OUR affairs, and even trying to draft bills into play that would make other countries have more control in our own borders then we as people, as a country, and SUPPOSED to be a democracy have a way to voice. This needs to stop now, you sir are in no position to lead when you seemingly have no proper agenda in leading beyond making the rich richer and the downtrodden even more so.

    Stop this. We are supposed to be peacekeepers, lobbing bombs and munitions in a conflict zone when we apparently have trouble keeping our own affairs does not qualify as this. We are supposed to HELP those who may not be able to help themselves, not strongarm other countries into doing what we tell them, and certainly not following in the footsteps of everything the U.S does.

    Grow a backbone and do the right thing, or resign quite simple.

  495. hirundineOctober 3, 2014 at 6:08 pm #

    The whole debacle around the U.S. led bombing of Syria. Shows a lack of respect for sovereign countries.

    Earlier this year, the U.S. was all for bombing Syria because they maintained that armed so-called “moderate opposition” was being targeted by the Assad government.

    Now the U.S. wants to bomb Syria, because they maintain that the same opposition is now extreme terrorists? Can’t make up their minds can they?

    Canada needs to stop meddling in other countries affairs. Strangely or not? Since Canada and U.S. of A. went into Afghanistan, the production and flow of heroin from that country has increased. Nobody wants to see women subjected to oppression by men. Yet prior to U.S. of A. setting up madrases in Pakistan, during 1980′s, this was not a problem in any country?

    The media is obviously feeding the public lies and skewed information about the U.S.’ complicity, with seeking war at every opportunity. Canada needs to show some backbone and leadership, holding our neighbour to account. … I’m not holding my breath!

    All the money spent by Canada in the last fifteen years or so, could have given pensioners a better living and actually helped to alleviate the poverty in our country.

  496. ScottOctober 3, 2014 at 6:08 pm #

    these evil people steal little girls and sell them for sex, haven’t you people watched the news? we should support out allies against this very real threat.

    • jeanneOctober 3, 2014 at 6:14 pm #

      You are reading and listening to biased news reporting from the media outlets that are controlled by the corporate elites, Big Oil, etc
      Try looking online for more UNBIASED news reporting. It is there, all you have to do is look and read….Unless of course, you have been drinking the Harper Kool-Aid of the day…._

  497. Sandra CowleyOctober 3, 2014 at 6:08 pm #

    We are our brothers’ keepers, whether they live next door or half a world away. If we were in the shoes of the survivors of the butchered innocents over there – they cut in half a five year old boy, son of a Christian Leader!!!, just one of thousands of horrific acts! – would we not pray, cry for deliverance from whomever is able to help? Are we not living in the best country in the world and do we not have a human obligation to ‘pay back’ to our world for our great good fortune? To do more than just shake our heads at the horrors and be happy it isn’t US, being tortured to death, slaughtered? For just being different from the evil ISIS? ISIS MUST be stopped as soon as is possible, before thousands more are tortured, murdered, forced to flee into misery in order to live. We are not an island in the cosmos. We are a blessed part of humanity, living in peace, relative prosperity, a democracy. Helping the refugees will not stop the slaughter. Stop the slaughter, and THEN, know that help for the refugees will not be vain, should the ISIS kill their way to even more territory/wins!

    • Chris GeorgeOctober 3, 2014 at 6:18 pm #

      Where were you when it was US munitions and Israeli soldiers slaughtering children in Gaza?

      The principle of non-violence cannot be selectively applied. These bombing missions will kill innocent people. Their blood is on our hands, whether we agree with the mission or not. Violence begets violence and the loss of thousands more innocent people will likely only lead to more radicalism and more threats to innocents on our soil.

      War is a racket, a scam, where profits are measured in the billions and the losses are measured in the lives of innocent people. What need is there for a $200 million dollar plane to deliver an endless series of $100,000 bombs to attempt to kill a handful of insurgents hiding in a population of innocents, when we can spend $100,000 on some intelligence and fifty cents on a bullet to end the life of a violent criminal?

      Rhetorical question. Anyone who watches the stock market could tell you the answer.

      We must look at the log in our own eye before we go off looking to help our brothers with the mote in theirs.

    • jeanneOctober 3, 2014 at 6:20 pm #

      Sandra
      I realize how emotional of an issue this is BUT do you really think that bombing the country out of existence will rid our world of religious fanatics? Canada should do our part: huge humanitary aid, taking in refugees, medical assistance etc BUT the hatred spawned for hundreds of years among the Middle East populations will only grow if the West tries to manipulate our so-called Democracy on them. The people of these regions MUST resist and try to solve their own problems (which by the way mostly brought on recently by the American Bush phony war on Iraq)

  498. Bill HendersonOctober 3, 2014 at 6:07 pm #

    People will be killed. This will inflame the situation creating even more insanity and further “righteous” killings. We need to stop now!

  499. Michel faubertOctober 3, 2014 at 6:07 pm #

    Why do we have to fight all those american creation like alqaeda isis isl takfiri all those terrorist work for america .all the infrastuctures are falling a part here and the postal service is collapsing .but we have money to kill people abroad .the prime ministre should work for canada first.

  500. Sharon BurnsOctober 3, 2014 at 6:07 pm #

    STOP THIS SELF-RIGHTEOUS KILLING, BOMBING, WAR-MONGERING!

  501. Ann CoffeyOctober 3, 2014 at 6:06 pm #

    Where is Jean Chretien when we need him? At least he had the guts to refuse to join the Coalition of the Coerced. Unfortunately, we have a prime minister who has a grossly over-inflated opinion of himself and who likes to play with the big boys on the world stage.

  502. Karen NystromOctober 3, 2014 at 6:05 pm #

    Britain debated 7 hours – Canada 0. Canada should NOT be a war monger. Humanitarian aid and any humanitarian military assistance would be far more noble a cause.

  503. Meenal ShrivastavaOctober 3, 2014 at 6:05 pm #

    NO WAR!!!

  504. Paul S. GrahamOctober 3, 2014 at 6:02 pm #

    Bombing will make matters worse. The US and its “coalition of the willing” brought us to this place. If action is needed, let it take the form of arms embargoes and humanitarian aid. Elizabeth made some good points in Parliament on this issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3KfYVFaUcY

    • BarbaraOctober 3, 2014 at 6:25 pm #

      I clicked on “Yes” for the opposition of Parliament, but I think I pushed the wrong button. I strongly oppose Harpers plan of violence. Paul is “right on” – bombing loved ones is a sure way to drive people to join the fight instead of working for peace. And our taking part in the violence destroys our humanity as well. It’s insane.

      • DarrellOctober 3, 2014 at 6:54 pm #

        I agree that it was confusing whether you were voting NO against the government’s motion, or Yes for the opposition to oppose the government’s motion. I decided on the former: NO. I do not believe that uncoordinated military intervention has solved any of the problems in the Greater Middle East. A diplomatic approach including sanctions and embargoes would go further to arrest terrorism on a longer term basis. A humanitarian approach would go further to heal the economic social disparities that lead to a rise in terrorism.

  505. BillOctober 3, 2014 at 6:01 pm #

    We don’t know what we’re getting into. We are not the US and we are not Great Britain. There’s intelligence that we’re not aware of…and Canada’s intentions, as honorable as they may be, would be misguided.

  506. MortonOctober 3, 2014 at 5:57 pm #

    Neil Armstrong’s comments (CBC) are worth repeating:
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/look-around-isis-s-acolytes-are-just-apprentices-at-atrocity-1.2781883

  507. mographOctober 3, 2014 at 5:56 pm #

    Let’s say we disperse ISIL. What next? What will rise in their place?

  508. Christine IlottOctober 3, 2014 at 5:55 pm #

    This is not our mess, it’s not our place to be there. None of these countries have asked is for our help. We are an illegal occupying force. Under Harper we have become bullies. Harper needs to go NOW and we need to stay out of Iraq and this whole mess!

  509. mike owenOctober 3, 2014 at 5:55 pm #

    I wish you had an unsure vote. Because I want to help those who are being killed etc by Isis. I would like peace in the middle east but am unsure how to achieve it. Fighting today is sooo different that in WW! or WW@ there were sides. Today guerilla warefare, who is who complicate the entire military issue. And like others have said what is the end game or strategy? One issue puzzles me, is how can these Isis people control and sell the oil. Who is buying it? They are contributing to this in a huge way. Providing $’s for weapons and for instability.

    • mographOctober 3, 2014 at 5:57 pm #

      Yes. Who is buying their oil?

      Good question.

  510. MaryOctober 3, 2014 at 5:54 pm #

    It is sad to see, that yet again, we take a costly and ineffective way of dealing with this situation. Finding a solution is difficult not easy. It appears we are not interested in finding a solution. The last time showed us that we did more harm than good. Obviously we have learned very little. Yet it is we who will pay not only more in taxes but forced to live with more global instability. We should all be very concerned about what this means to us all.

  511. Reza MojtabaviOctober 3, 2014 at 5:52 pm #

    Why should Canada involve herself in an American initiated war? Is the whole world going crazy or being intimated to engage in a war started and continued by Americans? As a Canadian I do not supporting this war.

    • Michael BuntingOctober 3, 2014 at 5:54 pm #

      Agreed.

    • mographOctober 3, 2014 at 5:57 pm #

      We are a rump state of the US now.
      This is the Canada that Harper promised we wouldn’t recognize.

  512. Sten LifOctober 3, 2014 at 5:52 pm #

    The Harper gov’t is a true right-wing party & all right-wing party’s love war because they think it will be of economic benefit to their corporate friends. They only ‘couch’ their thinking by pretending to actually care about the atrocities committed by the various groups in the middle east! Also they believe that by entering this conflict there will be less focus on the despicable and deplorable way they treat Canada’s war veterans. What ever happened to the Canada the world knew as a ‘peacemaker’? Well, it elected a right-wing party that does not believe in peacemaking! This party has got to be stopped before it completely destroys Canada (if it already hasn’t)!

  513. Bruce hunterOctober 3, 2014 at 5:49 pm #

    I find these types of military actions or any military actions for that matter, deplorable. We were the peace keepers or were sold to believe that my whole life. Now we have joined forces in a constant bombing and killing for Peace? No matter how far away we pretend to be in our jet fighters or our new Canadian drones armed with missiles, or our comfortable accommodations near Parliament Hill we can’t escape that every Canadian is now going to play a part in even more murder. I don’t know how anyone can say they are a man of faith and believe in God when they condone this type of behaviour. Yes Stephen I’m talking to you.

    • John RowellOctober 3, 2014 at 5:55 pm #

      You are arguing in circle to call war “murder.” Whether there is such a thing as a just war is debatable, but this one gets as close as I’ve seen.

      • mographOctober 3, 2014 at 5:59 pm #

        How will this war end?

  514. Chistine JohnstonOctober 3, 2014 at 5:46 pm #

    I agree with the many wise comments above so will not repeat them.
    Elizabeth May points out the foolish mistakes made in the past from good intentions such as encouraging the formation of Al Qaeda to fight communism.

    Mulcair asked some great questions as use of money and only the arms manufacturers will profits from this use of our tax money.

    And Trudeau asked why? Where are NATO and the UN

  515. Fast EddyOctober 3, 2014 at 5:45 pm #

    Wake up everyone or loose control of the web.

  516. RosemaryOctober 3, 2014 at 5:44 pm #

    Putting resourses into stopping THE FLOW OF ARMAMENTS from western countries needs to be STOPPED. The economic dependency on this selling of weapons must stop. This dependency is what is killing people!
    We all know bombing has always and will continue to kill the many innocent people. ENOUGH ID ENOUGH! …… Those in government NEED to begin to VALUE lives more than allowing this organized killing. Let us, let yourselves think outside-of-the-box, be more inclusive of other people’s ideas and become that Peace Keeping Country that we were at one time respected for.

  517. Janet BerketaOctober 3, 2014 at 5:43 pm #

    Wars benefit the weapons manufacturers. Other than that, they create incredible hardship, loss of life, and injuries that last a lifetime. We are not gaining a thing – and the weapons manufacturers are not making charitable donations to war vets – so far as I am aware!

  518. Tag elkhazinOctober 3, 2014 at 5:43 pm #

    This is against our grains Stephen Harper. I do not authorize you to waste my taxes in this childish adventure. For how long are you going to trail the American gangsters?

    Why are you subjecting me, my family and my innocent fellow citizens to possible, indeed likely punitive measures by IS as result of your rash decisions.

  519. Donna StewartOctober 3, 2014 at 5:43 pm #

    We should not be involved in Middle Easter religious/political conflicts…not selling them weapons, practising our own military skills, sacrificing our own young people, even to suck up to the U.S.

  520. Bill LongstaffOctober 3, 2014 at 5:43 pm #

    The Islamic State arose directly out of the invasion of Iraq by the United States and its coalition. This is, therefore, largely a made-in-the-USA mess and the Americans should be responsible for cleaning it up.

    Furthermore, the United States has for a long time been generous to the Egyptian military, supplying it with more military equipment than any other country outside of Israel, and both the U.S. and Great Britain have made massive arms sales to Saudi Arabia. Indeed, the Americans recently completed the greatest arms deal in their history with the Saudis. So what was all this largesse for, if not to deal with threats to their countries and to their region? If anyone is obligated to act against the Islamic State and follow the U.S. into war it is these guys. Egypt has the men, Saudi Arabia has the money, they both have the weapons, and it is their turf, not ours.

    We should of course be generous in helping victims of the Islamic State. That’s where our money and expertise should go. But we should be very wary indeed of getting involved in a now-extended American imperial adventure, keeping in mind that it began with an illegal invasion in the first place, an invasion neither sanctioned by the UN Security Council nor in accordance with the UN’s founding charter.

    • RosemaryOctober 3, 2014 at 5:47 pm #

      Wonderfully put! Thank you!

      • John turnerOctober 3, 2014 at 5:57 pm #

        Excellent comment!

  521. Oren FisherOctober 3, 2014 at 5:40 pm #

    Military action outside our borders is terrorism. Our government has created an enemy and asked us to approve of, and finance, their aggression. I say no.

  522. Phyllis CreightonOctober 3, 2014 at 5:39 pm #

    Military violence will solve nothing. The evidence shows it will make things worse. Humanitarian aid, help for refugees, these help. Where’s the overall plan, the end-game strategy? Weapons exports and violence have been the steady lot of the Middle East for decades, aided and abetted by the US and its allies. Time to give peace and non-violent solutions a chance.

  523. Jesse HoldenOctober 3, 2014 at 5:38 pm #

    Not sure if its just me but you didn’t word this very well, I’m against what harper is doing and I clicked yes, not sure it was right to do so or not… you guys need to word things just a little bit better….
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  524. S TerryOctober 3, 2014 at 5:37 pm #

    There are no winners in war. War begets war… To quote a very wise man, “We may never be strong enough to be entirely nonviolent in thought, word and deed. But we must keep nonviolence as our goal and make strong progress towards it. The Attainment of freedom, whether for a person, a nation or a world, must be in exact proportion to the attainment of nonviolence for each.” Mahatma Ghandi

  525. James LittleOctober 3, 2014 at 5:36 pm #

    We did nothing when the Ukraine was attacked by Russia and that conflict is still ongoing. There is a large number of Ukrainian peoples living in Canada and we have had a lot to do with that country over the years. What has Iraq done for us? We were in Rwanda and the rest of the world ducked out. What will happen when this new venture does not go the way they hope it will. This will require a lot longer time than six months to resolve and if you use other conflicts in this area will never be resolved as it is based on religious issues not practical or political differences.

  526. Rupert LangOctober 3, 2014 at 5:36 pm #

    One stupid missile that the US has been firing can cost up to $500, 000 EACH!!!
    Be smart – Drop food, shelters, medical supplies for refugees – NOT bombs!
    Canada used to have a world reputation as a peace keeping force and supporter of the victims of war – NOT as world police like the US think they are.
    Why does Canada stand on its own 2 feet? and not follow the US blindly into war that always creates more war in the end….

    • Doug HartOctober 3, 2014 at 8:09 pm #

      I agree with Rupert. What is the cost of this mission, and how about using this money for food, medicines, or finding homes for the many many displaced peoples?

  527. KirkOctober 3, 2014 at 5:34 pm #

    Harper is a treasonist dictator and should be hung! A member of the Committee of 300. Who are global elitist who work for the corporations. He is right on target with United Nations Agenda 21 which calls for world depopulation and The Georgia Guide Stones which state that the ideal world population is 500,000,000 people.

    • DeeOctober 3, 2014 at 5:41 pm #

      Completely agree with Kirk.

      Harper has been bought and paid for and will do what he is told by the Elites, particularly to further Agenda 21.

      Exchange 3 letters in his name for another 3 letters and you have a remarkable resemblance to another bought and paid for dictator in recent history.

      Shame………….

    • Tag elkhazinOctober 3, 2014 at 5:45 pm #

      Let us vote him out to oblivion in the next elections

    • Philip SommerOctober 3, 2014 at 5:52 pm #

      Harper has nothing to do with “Agenda 21″, he is a shill and sales rep for militarism.
      He uses fear as a sales tool and he will be lushly rewarded. Just watch!

  528. Judith ApplebyOctober 3, 2014 at 5:33 pm #

    Canada has no business getting involved in this battle. Chretien kept us out of the Iraq fiasco before despite Harper’s eagerness to send in troops. Now Harper has his chance to suck up to the Americans at the expense of Canadian lives. I bet he wouldn’t be so keen if he or his sons or daughters had to go to Iraq.

  529. Bob StuartOctober 3, 2014 at 5:33 pm #

    This may be the most Un-Canadian thing Harper has ever tried. Iraq needs reparations, real democracy, and PTSD councilors, not more death and destruction. These wars are how oil companies co-opt us into their competitions, when we should be phasing them out instead.

  530. Trista GroulxOctober 3, 2014 at 5:32 pm #

    ISIS seems be a haven for people who are disillusioned with the ideals of the West. Taking military action will only further their hatred and disdain which will intern will only make more violence. It’s a vicious cycle where no one wins because these opinions are so deeply personal and ingrained in so many. Sadly there will always fights on either side of the fence because it is a dark part of humanity.

  531. Art JaszczykOctober 3, 2014 at 5:32 pm #

    There is no way to Peace. Peace is the way.

  532. JocelynOctober 3, 2014 at 5:32 pm #

    Harper should be thrown out of office as soon as possible. He is not even the legal leader of Canada since the Supreme Court ruled that electoral fraud had indeed been committed in the last election. Doesn’t that mean he should immediately be dismissed from office and an emergency reelection held?

  533. Al WeirOctober 3, 2014 at 5:32 pm #

    Hey ASSHOLE! If you’re really want to kill people, kill yourself. Problem solved.

  534. Tom PriestlyOctober 3, 2014 at 5:31 pm #

    All you have to do is watch or read Elizabeth May’s statement in parliament. If only some of the Cons were half as wise! As she said, I / we can agree with Harper’s intentions but disagree completely with his methods. Bombing will just make matters worse.

  535. Marian NollOctober 3, 2014 at 5:31 pm #

    Mr. Harper seems to want to be one of the “big boys” who play with big toys. I’d much prefer to see Canada provide medical and humanitarian aid to the many innocent people who are caught in this struggle through no fault of their own. Our leaders call their leaders thugs and murderers, etc. etc. What will our country’s actions say about us?

  536. Douglas BrownOctober 3, 2014 at 5:31 pm #

    War created this problem and endless drone strikes that killed many many innocent people helped it get bigger, I don’t believe Canada should continue to get involved in the insane and destructive practices that are called U.S. foreign policy.

  537. Donald GraystonOctober 3, 2014 at 5:31 pm #

    I entirely support what Elizabeth May said in the House of Commons today, October 3. ISIS is receiving millions of dollars a day through the discounted sale of oil to agencies in Turkey. That needs to be stopped, and the flow of weapons from western countries to militant groups, ISIS and others, needs to be stopped as well. Bombing Libya has resulted in chaos and misery in that country; I fear that bombing ISIS, tempting though it is in view of its atrocities, would have the same result.

  538. Bob KorolOctober 3, 2014 at 5:30 pm #

    Despite what ISIS represents, bombing is indiscriminant – anyone in the way gets killed or maimed. Wars kill more innocent victims than they do military personnel, and when a bomb drops on a building, more likely than not, the casualties will be the people who live there!

  539. Roger hollanderOctober 3, 2014 at 5:29 pm #

    ISIS poses no threat to Canadians. Sending Canadian women and men to kill and be killed is illegal and immoral. The Canadian government will have blood on its hands for serving Western geopolitical, military and corporate interests. This is not about fighting terrorism, rather about controlling OIL.

  540. Lyle StaffordOctober 3, 2014 at 5:29 pm #

    Civilians will die, we know this. Dropping bombs from two kilometers is not the answer. If anything, send in assassins, remove the leadership, leave heads on spikes if you have to but do not bomb women and children. We are a nation of peacekeepers yet this PM thinks we are warriors. I can’t wait for the next election.

    Peace.

  541. Paula DelahuntyOctober 3, 2014 at 5:29 pm #

    When did war solve a problem. The war to end all wars proved nothing. Peace is the answer. Give it a chance. Do not destroy more of our young men and women, families and so much more. Violence begets violence.

  542. Penny JoyOctober 3, 2014 at 5:28 pm #

    Harper’s proposed plan for more bombing raids can and will only make matters, in these troubled areas in the middle east, much worse! Bombing, killing and destroying will only contribute to more bombing, killing and destruction – will we never learn?

  543. David ShawOctober 3, 2014 at 5:28 pm #

    I’m very much AGAINST us joining any coalition but I misunderstood the question and thought I was agreeing to the opposition being against it. I suspect it looks like I agree with the mission … which I emphatically do not.

    David Shaw

  544. Jane UnderwoodOctober 3, 2014 at 5:27 pm #

    War has been going on in the Middle East for thousands of years. Why is it thought peace can occur? Innocents are in danger. Canada can be there for humanitarian efforts.

  545. Valerie SherriffOctober 3, 2014 at 5:27 pm #

    Military intervention is a thing of the past. It is so sad that Canadians are no longer seen as peace keepers. I am sorry that Mr. Harper has brought us to this.

  546. Michael MurphyOctober 3, 2014 at 5:26 pm #

    The Saskatoon Peace Coalition is totally opposed to the sending of any Canadian military forces to Iraq or Syria. We will hold a public rally at Saskatoon City Hall on Monday to show our disapproval.

  547. Patrick BrownOctober 3, 2014 at 5:26 pm #

    This proposed military action is targeted at an unidentified enemy using inappropriate means, has no way of identifying victory, and no end point. Its objective is only domestic and political.

  548. Donna DunnOctober 3, 2014 at 5:26 pm #

    I believe we should be involved only if it is UN sanctioned.

  549. JudithOctober 3, 2014 at 5:25 pm #

    So far all the military action by the West in the Middle East has done more harm than good. Why should we think that doing more of the same will bring a different result?

  550. Ezio CusiOctober 3, 2014 at 5:22 pm #

    I know that no war is too small for Canad to try to be a part of, but the Harper Govermenent is crazy to want to participate.
    Give peace a chance!

  551. MarekOctober 3, 2014 at 5:22 pm #

    Where out vote on this mission not just harpers vote?

  552. Lee ProcykOctober 3, 2014 at 5:20 pm #

    I against helping this movement we are a peace keeping/promoting country!

  553. Gayle NelsonOctober 3, 2014 at 5:19 pm #

    This affects us all and we should all help to solve the problem and not expect the US to do it for us.

    • Ezio CusiOctober 3, 2014 at 5:23 pm #

      How does this affect us all? Aside from insisting on being the UUSS poodle…

  554. DaveOctober 3, 2014 at 4:21 pm #

    After 15 years of FAILED military adventures instigated by old men and fought by boys, we have learned nothing. Abetting dictators and failed governments will get Canada into the next Vietnam, in the Middle East.
    Show some sense, let this religious conflict run its course without the West’s meddling. We don’t comprehend the dynamics of this struggle and are really protecting the oil conglomerates holdings, while damning the people of these lands to perpetual war from the air.

  555. Fred BraileyOctober 3, 2014 at 4:20 pm #

    President Obama has already stated his criticism of military action by quoting the familiar adage: If your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. This clearly “hits the nail on the head.” We may surmise that President Obama personally regrets that all military action is misguided. His personal views matter very little; it is his duty to act in the interests of the nation, and the Commander in Chief is guided by his military advisers. The military stand ready at all times to obey the Commander in Chief, who is a political animal beholden to his advisers and the enigmatic public mood. As the majority of national leaders are captives of their military cultures, whole nations are likewise captives of the military mindset. War continues to re-invent itself, in perpetuity. IT WILL TAKE A MASSIVE CHANGE IN PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING TO ELECT AN ADMINISTRATION COMMITTED TO NON-VIOLENT INTERNATIONAL RELATIONSHIPS.